XPost: alt.agnosticism, talk.atheism, alt.atheism   
   XPost: alt.philosophy   
   From: bretts1967@hotmail.com   
      
   On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 13:48:19 -0500, duke  wrote:   
      
   >On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 12:08:21 -0500, "Pro-Humanist FREELOVER"   
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >>>>Probably, the first instinctive reaction to   
   >>>>that would be that it depends on what   
   >>>>one is being asked to believe in.   
   >   
   >>>This is not free thinking.   No one is "asked" to believe.  One either does   
   >>>believe or one does not believe.   
   >>>I believe.   
   >   
   >>You believe in some things, disbelieve   
   >>in others. For example:   
   >   
   >>Do you believe in atheism?   
   >   
   >Totally unsupported.   
   >   
   >>Probably not, though you may be open   
   >>to the idea that free choice requires that   
   >>disbelief be allowed. On the other hand,   
   >>many theists in the past were not so   
   >>open, and an alarming number of theists   
   >>in the present (primarily in islamic theo-   
   >>cracies) require belief as an intrinsic part   
   >>of daily life, with threats of imprisonment   
   >>or even death to those that disbelieve in   
   >>the islamic deity (Allah).   
   >   
   >>Do you believe in agnosticism?   
   >   
   >Yes, I can understand it, but I'm not one.   
   >   
   >>Not likely, though you probably find that   
   >>much more acceptable than atheism.   
   >   
   >Yep.   
   >   
   >>Do you believe in humanism?   
   >   
   >What 'tis?   
   >   
   >>To the extent it's consistent with your theism,   
   >>you likely do, but to the extent it's inconsistent   
   >>with your theism, as in secular humanism, not   
   >>likely.   
   >   
   >>Do you believe in Zeus?   
   >   
   >Totally unsupported.   
   >   
   >>I dare say 'no' is your response to that.   
   >>Do you believe in any of the following Gods?   
   >   
   >Totally unsupported.   
   >   
   >duke, American-American   
   >*****   
   >"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."   
   >Pope Paul VI   
   >*****   
      
   Hey duke, what happened to your catholic butt-buddy, BAM? Does he   
   still hang around here?   
      
   Gospel Bretts   
   a.a. Atheist #2262   
   Fundy Xian Atheist   
      
   " For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son,   
   that whosoever believeth in him should believeth all sorts of other   
   ridiculous nonsense as well."   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)