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   brian fletcher to All   
   Re: Existence Is Absolutely Deterministi   
   05 Aug 07 13:21:50   
   
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   From: brianf88@bigpond.net.au   
      
   "chazwin"  wrote in message   
   news:1186306947.631444.101290@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...   
   > On Aug 4, 8:19 pm, sdrodr...@sdrodrian.com wrote:   
   >> On Jul 22, 4:00 pm, bdbry...@wherever.ur   
   >> (Bobby > In article <1184873139.211531.245...@d55g2000hsg.   
   >>   
      
      
   SNIP   
      
   . We shall   
   >> find that the uncertainty principle will be the key to   
   >> performing the double-slit experiment over   
   >> astronomical distances, and demonstrating that quantum   
   >> effects are not just microscopic phenomena, but can be   
   >> extended across the cosmos.   
   >>   
   >> .   
   >   
   > QM is simply not explicable in terms as yet used by physics. Thus far   
   > physics has failed to correctly note the phenomena and conditions   
   > which give rise to QM activity.   
   > None of this disproves determinism, it only chllenges the arrongance   
   > of physicist who insist that the world is easily determinable. QM   
   > phenomena are yet to be understood correctly. Soon enough the   
   > boundaries of physics will broaden and the factors which determine QM   
   > will eventually be discovered.   
      
   Science, on whatever level, cannot explain "itself", from QM to Cosmology.   
      
   No scientist expects the "knowledge" of everything, only the "theory"   
   therof.   
      
   The self limitation (and predictability) of "group think"....or individual   
   think for that` "matter".The mind s attempt to see itself.   
      
   There's nothing more predictable than a group of Qantum physicists.....but   
   one particular one ?   
      
   You guessed it. Totally random...as with each of us.   
      
   There are no mysteries undiscovered. Just have to transcend past validation   
   processes   (quantum at work.....being a stepping stone).......   
      
   Understandable why scientists often try to debunk genuine mystics. They are   
   valid in their attempt to do so, because they see contradiction.Within and   
   from that particular world, totally predictable.   
      
   BOfL   
      
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