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   From: brianf88@bigpond.net.au   
      
   "SDR"  wrote in message   
   news:1186382241.614485.139020@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...   
   > On Aug 3, 11:16 am, Rob   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >> And, of course, to 'prove' that no   
   >> magic is required you need to   
   >> explain (or eliminate) the beginning,   
   >> i.e. how something evolved from   
   >> nothing.  -- Rob   
   >   
   > As I've said many times, and as (surely) you   
   > yourself must realize: "If Existence had to   
   > have had "a" beginning it could not exist."   
   >   
   > In a very real sense: There was always   
   > "something." AND/OR what now exists is   
   > another version/variation of Nothingness   
   > --Something  which some scientists and   
   > theoreticians (including myself) like to swear   
   > is the case:   
      
   It is impossible for the mind to "think" outside the realm of time and   
   space, because it actually is "of" the same "substance".   
      
   It is possible to become aware of "now" in the absolute form. We all get a   
   "taste" whether we are aware of what it means or not when it happens.A sense   
   of timelessness is a glimpse of reality.   
      
   Just put your attention on the 'possibility' of the eternal now......then   
   add a 'k'...:-)   
      
   BOfL   
      
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