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   From: brianf88@bigpond.net.au   
      
   "kevirwin"  wrote in message   
   news:1187821943.177866.290500@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com...   
   > On Aug 22, 4:01 pm, sdr  wrote:   
   >> Some woman or other equated dog fights to   
   >> "crimes against humanity" in a Washington Post   
   >> editorial. And I say:   
   >>   
   >> THESE ARE NOT CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY   
   >> (they are crimes against dogadity at best). It   
   >> cheapens humanity when morons like the woman   
   >> above drags down the uniqueness of "humanity"   
   >> to the level of one or other of the lower beasts.   
   >>   
   >> These beasts are unconscious of their destiny   
   >> and there is nothing outside of pure physical pain   
   >> they can anguish over... like your child anguishes   
   >> over your treatment of him/her. Billions of chickens   
   >> are slaughtered every day for our dinner in a hell   
   >> of a lot more horrific ways than those of a dog fight.   
   >> And all over Asia dogs are raised and slaughtered for   
   >> food exactly like we slaughter chickens, ducks, et al.   
   >>   
   >> Recently we read of a dog that ripped off his   
   >> mistress's face (because doctors gave her a face   
   >> transplant): THAT was probably a hell of a lot more   
   >> savage/brutal an incident than anything that ever   
   >> happened in any organized dog fight--THAT's the   
   >> nature of this particular beast. It is a brutal/savage   
   >> animal. And yet, do we hear any clamor for the   
   >> banning of dogs as pets? No. And not even when   
   >> nearly 5,000,000 human beings are savaged every   
   >> year by dogs in this country alone (900,000 of whom   
   >> are ripped so badly that they require major medical   
   >> intervention). And that's EVERY year. With thousands   
   >> horribly killed or disfigured (especially children!).   
   >>   
   >> Dogs are the most savage animals man has been   
   >> able to domesticate--THAT's why we domesticated   
   >> them. Dog fights are indeed inhuman, BECAUSE   
   >> humans so seldom engage in fights like those (but   
   >> we sometimes do, and that's why we will almost   
   >> certainly have dog fights). Yet place almost any two   
   >> dogs together and you will have a "dog fight."   
   >>   
   >> Enough of this nonsense: Fine Vick a few thousands   
   >> or whatever. And let him get on with his life. This   
   >> notion of crucifying him for putting dogs together so   
   >> they can do what comes natural to them is what is   
   >> detestable and insulting to the humanity of us all.   
   >>   
   >> S D Rodrian   
   >>   
   >> .   
   >   
   > Yea, it is nonsnese; a couple of years in prison is the sentence some   
   > rapists or muggers who commit violent crimes get...Dog fighting   
   > wouldn't appear to be in that category..Putting people in jail for   
   > crimes against animals??? It might be rude or unkind, but fine him   
   > (substantially) and everyone move on....   
   >   
   > Probably not a popular stance with PETA or the SPCA, but perhaps they   
   > should re-focus their energies to something like: People for Ethical   
   > Treatment of Humans...   
   >   
   > Hmmmm, what's PETA's stance on cows??? Do any of their members eat   
   > hamburgers??   
   >   
   > K e v   
      
   I guess matadors could face a life sentence....   
      
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