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   brian fletcher to Michael Gray   
   Re: Immortality, a non-religious approac   
   10 Jan 08 14:35:30   
   
   XPost: alt.philosophy, alt.atheism, alt.agnosticism   
   From: brianf88@bigpond.net.au   
      
   "Michael Gray"  wrote in message   
   news:b0lbo3ljk0jv6oaosmt4itkfho76c42u0q@4ax.com...   
   > On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 06:50:31 GMT, "brian fletcher"   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >>   
   >>"Uncle Vic"  wrote in message   
   >>news:Xns9A20D46C9D963vicman@207.115.33.102...   
   >>> One fine day in alt.atheism, "Mark Earnest"    
   >>> bloodied   
   >>> us up with this:   
   >>>   
   >>>> We are talking living together forever here.   
   >>>   
   >>> I'll agree only if "forever" spans the time our species has and will   
   >>> exist,   
   >>> and is reached through passing on our DNA to future generations.  One   
   >>> person does not live forever.   
   >>>   
   >>>> With much emphasis on "together..."   
   >>>   
   >>> Right, as in "we're all in this together".   
   >>>   
   >>>> How would it be conceivably possible to survive forever and ever...   
   >>>> ...considering all the creating it would require...   
   >>>> ...without an infinite and good Creator somehow running the entire   
   >>>> show?   
   >>>   
   >>> Sorry, your question cannot be answered.  You've used up your share of   
   >>> dots.   
   >>>   
   >>>> Let alone trying to explain how to live with our enemies, forever.   
   >>>   
   >>> Let's just worry about doing that during our normal lifetimes.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >>Atheism is to do with ones perception/belief regarding God.   
   >>   
   >>Life and all its nuances and manifestations, including the 'ongoing   
   >>nature'   
   >>(immortality) of an individual has been hijacked by the religionists over   
   >>the years, but has nothing whatever to do with such reality.Nor has   
   >>atheism.   
   >   
   > Save for having one less fiction in the road to that understanding.   
      
   All beliefs and 'others' views, are, by definition, fiction.   
      
   Even the comments I am making, are also fiction to another, until an   
   individual realizes as opposed to believes, the substance of those points of   
   view.   
      
   BOfL   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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