XPost: alt.philosophy, alt.atheism, alt.agnosticism
From: lunch@nofreelunch.us
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:02:51 +0000, in alt.atheism
ZerkonX wrote in <8d8d6$4788e4ab$d06646dc$981@FUSE.NET>:
>On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:45:13 -0600, Pro-Humanist FREELOVER wrote:
>
>> immortality
>
>I believe immortality is pretty much a given fact on the "natural" level
>as you say.
Does that mean something? The evidence is clear. Living things die. What
possible meaning of immortality do you invent to avoid that?
>On the atomic level or 'energy' level death, in absolute
>terms, does not exist. Something never becomes an absolute nothing, the
>universe would implode I suppose if this were not true.
That may have been intended to pass information to others. I cannot
tell. I have never heard of anyone implying that atoms or 'energy' are
living except in the most wildly mystical sense.
>> But, is religion really necessary for immortality?
>
>Most religions promise immorality for everyone. The difference usually
>being, after one dies, if you have been good you get good things, if bad,
>bad things. If you are not all that good but are not all that bad either
>you get some of both, IOW, sent to Earth.
Funny how religions make promises that they are certain not to have to
answer for.
--
"... There's glory for you."
"I don't know what you mean by 'glory,'" Alice said.
Humpty Dumpty smiles contemptuously. "Of course you don't--till
I tell you. I meant 'there's a nice knock-down argument for you!'"
"But glory doesn't mean "a nice knock-down argument," Alice objected.
"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,
"it means just what I choose it to mean--neither more nor less."
"The question is," said Alice "whether you can make words mean so
many different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master--that's
all."
--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)
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