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|    dev carter to All    |
|    On the economy Obama will need to go to     |
|    29 Jan 09 04:50:07    |
      From: devcarter@iinet.net.au              On the economy Obama will need to go to a plan B       ====================================       The plutocratic system is the political and economic system developed       in the Capitalist nations of the West dominated by the USA. It is a       system that eventuates should no counter-veiling constitutional force       exists that acts against gross wealth disparity and the undermining of       constitutional democracy by corporate interests.              Part of the process of plutocratization, is that neo-imperial       interests dominate the foreign policy agenda, not multilateral or       bilateral agreements to increase trade and prosperity for all US       citizens. The difference between a sovereign democracy and an imperial       entity is that imperial powers want their cake and eat it too. For the       USA it wants to impose a greater Israel controlled by Zionist allies       on Muslims, and a lesser Muslim Caliphate in Afghanistan and       elsewhere. A sovereign democracy doesn't play imperial games promoting       military conflict between abrahamic Semite sects. These policies are       highly profitable for the plutocratic corporations producing armaments       and hi-tech weaponry for the US defense forces but highly damaging to       other US businesses not dependent on US foreign policies for       militarist escalation.              The plutocratic imperial mindset sees the world in terms of allies and       enemies abroad and insiders and outsiders on the home front. The       consequences of plutocratic 'beggar thy neighbor' policies at home and       abroad is that once one creates a bottomless pit for the enemy /       outsider groups how does one prevent innocent bystanders falling in.       The plutocratic mindset sees the world as it would like it to be -       forever profitable come rain or shine, not holistically as it really       is where ideals with great regularity collide with reality and produce       unanticipated disasters.              If the rich keep getting richer and control an ever growing percentage       of a nation's wealth to the detriment of other classes, the stability       of the social system is ultimately undermined. If other classes cannot       share in the lifestyle promoted by the rich other than as impoverished       wage earners mortgaged and indebted up to the eyeballs by usury in       service of the plutocrats, the system is ultimately unsustainable and       will be restructured either by reform, revolution, war or the       evolutionary demise of the outsider classes.              What the plutocrats have built is a giant pyramid scheme, with       themselves at the top, the wage slave outsiders below and servile       political regimes at their beck and call. It is a scheme that must       inevitably develop in a political culture brainwashed with the mantra       of 'winner takes all'. Unless the outsider classes keep some wealth as       saving or assets, the system is unbalanced and cannot support a viable       market economy since personal debts and interest liabilities cannot be       met given the outsiders reduced income earning capacity. Such       imbalances cause the major economic depressions which in turn lead to       global conflagrations such as WW2 which followed the Great depression       of the 1930's.              The current financial crisis was triggered by a housing bubble in the       USA, with the initial outsiders being those caught with mortgage /       credit debt they could not viably service in the long run. Plutocracy       regards these outsiders as fruit for their sideboard and of little       importance in their scheme of things when beggared and on the street       after an inevitable foreclosure or bankruptcy.              These victims were only the first to fall into the hole, next came       those holding the highly devalued IOU's. If one IOU is devalued in a       plutocratic pyramid scheme what about all the rest? Now you understand       the holistic effect of how bottomless pits become whirlpools and suck       others in and why no financial institution wants to lend money       anymore. The cat is out of the bag. How does a bank tell if anyXYZ       Corp wanting to borrow a billion bucks is a genuine free enterprise       concern wanting to tap a market need, or alternatively a plutocratic       vehicle for con artists wanting to ramp their corp's stock, pay       themselves hundreds of millions in fees, dump corp stock at some       future market high point and then walk away leaving the bank with a       worthless IOU?              What Obama needs to grasp if he is truly on a reformist tack rather       than an apologist for plutocracy and merely trying to plug the leaks       in the sinking ship of US imperialism, is that this is a systemic       crisis and as such needs root and branch reform treatment not fiddling       with the peripheral symptom of unemployment.              You don't hook up a corpse on life support, just to restore some color       to its cheeks in the hope that all will now be just fine and dandy.       Pump priming with billions of borrowed funds without reform is doing       just that- just fiddling with the symptoms not addressing the systemic       problem- the cause.              The key to a future American success story is a balanced free market       system- neither rabidly laissez-faire capitalist nor neo-imperialist       and tending towards plutocratic socialism- the pork barreling of       militarist adventures, bailouts for Wall street insiders and the like.       Reform means taking an axe to all legislation that departs from a       reformed free market agenda at all levels (including reigning in the       Military) and building the checks and balances so that the less       intellectually and physically gifted retain some wealth in a new       hybrid ownership scheme in partnership with the state, where shares       may be bought via labor contribution.              It would entail dismantling of the welfare state so that all citizen       of a working age who were not self funded retires: were either in       full time employment; actively pursuing a business activity; or       enrolled in some formal educational / training course likely to       improve employment prospects upon completion. Instead of a state       paying 'sit down money' or welfare without strings attached, income       support should only be paid as a loan for study, or as a part-wage for       labor performed building infrastructure during recessionary times with       part payment being offered in dividend earning tradable shares in the       project or as a lump sum upon liquefaction of the asset should it be       sold off by the state in a boom.              To build viable hybrid ownership assets to protect the outsider       classes, these assets need to be marketable and be able to be turned       into cash or an income stream that adds to GDP. Building more high       cost prisons in order to punish malefactors caught playing catch up       via the plutocratic defined "illicit economy", isn't building the       viable infrastructure necessary to turn the economy around. Indeed it       would be far better if justice demands punishment for the common good-       to go back in time to the cheaper alternative - the garrote and       cat-of-nine-tails for the people's eye for an eye and tooth for a       tooth. Anyone thinking 100 lashes was 'way too soft for the act of              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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