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   From: prohumanist@cableone.net   
      
   "William Smith"  wrote in message   
    news:hnsads$b6$1@news.eternal-september.org...   
      
   > Pro-Humanist FREELOVER wrote:   
      
   >> The discovery was in line with the normal course of sci-   
   >> entific research, and does offer information of import   
   >> reflecting on the so-called "perfect design" that many   
   >> religionists assert accounts for their/our existence.   
   >>   
   >> Doesn't appear to be "perfect" to me. A close examin-   
   >> ation of the historical record should be enough to con-   
   >> vince anyone that the natural world is a high-risk envir-   
   >> onment and that if a supposed 'loving' God is responsible   
   >> for all this, he/it/she/they have a lot of explaining to do.   
      
   > Why, a catastrophe every now and then may be perfect and   
   > conducive for complex life forms.   
   >   
   > Put a massive Jupiter in the system, have it suck in most   
   > asteroids, so there won't be major disasters for eons.   
   > But once in a while clean up the space and kill everybody   
   > in sight except the fittest of the fittest. Dinosaurs out,   
   > mammals (and cockroaches) to the front stage.   
   > Religionists can argue that it was God's plan and a way   
   > to create humans. Or maybe not...   
      
   Religionists can (and do) argue that God is   
   whatever they wish him/it/her/them to be.   
   As they contradict one another, and con-   
   tradict their own selves, their Gods evap-   
   orate in clouds full of their deceptions, dis-   
   tortions, disingenuousness, and delusions.   
      
   Their Gods, in most cases used as the ulti-   
   mate seduction and the ultimate threat,   
   pushed into most childrens' minds from   
   birth.   
      
   Created by evolved apes to try to control/   
   manipulate/enslave/divide/conquer/kill, isn't   
   it long past time that humans outgrow that   
   infantile servile stage of evolution and aspire   
   to reasonably and responsibly address the   
   risks and challenges regarding our naturalistic   
   fates?   
      
   When people are pushing their Gods at you,   
   just reply "I've evolved past that." If there's   
   any interest exhibited by the God-pusher(s),   
   you might consider adding "You're welcome   
   to join me." Of course, at this point, deeper   
   discussions may ensue, so feel free to refer-   
   ence my website for further details on the   
   whys and wherefores of living a life apart   
   from religion:   
      
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     http://prohuman.net   
   (Freethinking Realist Exploring   
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