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   graham to Lance   
   Re: Insights into the Race Issue   
   13 Jul 10 07:37:16   
   
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   XPost: uk.philosophy.humanism, alt.society.conservatism, alt.society.liberalism   
   From: g.stereo@shaw.ca   
      
   "Dave Smith"  wrote in message   
   news:d721edb6-8246-422d-88ca-b4d3c746ebac@c33g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...   
   On 12 July, 08:07, Lance  wrote:   
   > On Jul 12, 2:40 am, Phlip  wrote:   
   >   
   > > On Jul 11, 4:14 pm, Lance  wrote:   
   >   
   > > > How do you explain the general rise in IQ scores that has occurred   
   > > > since WW2?   
   >   
   > > Real researchers building the tests, instead of zealots with agendas.   
   > > The original IQ tests were invented by racists, and hence they slanted   
   > > results on behalf of their race.   
   >   
   > I'm sure that is not true. The tests were not originally intended for   
   > use outside of schools (Binet and Simon) and were specifically   
   > standardized in one country. Racial comparisons came much later.   
   >   
   > The rise in IQ is not related specifically to race differences - it   
   > occurs across the board. That is why the link between disease and IQ   
   > is interesting - the advances in medicine, antibiotics, vaccines, etc   
   > could well explain both most of the racial differences AND the general   
   > rise in IQ since WW2.   
   >   
   > Lance   
      
   Regardless of the intentions of the designer,  it must be difficult to   
   ensure that IQ tests are not culturally biased.  I find the notion of   
   intelligence rather vague -- is a precise definition possible ?   
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   I recall that this was discussed here a couple of years ago.  Stephen J.   
   Gould thought that since IQ cannot be defined, it can't be measured.   
   Graham   
      
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