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   "Dave Smith"  skrev i meddelandet   
   news:a6dff9b5-9e85-4443-b0ee-a22944a77ad7@q12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...   
   On 22 July, 05:25, "M Winther"  wrote:   
   > "Dave Smith"  skrev i   
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   >> > On 21 July, 18:51, brad herschel  wrote:   
   >> >> Bottam line, negroes and spanish-speaking mestizoes are unsuited for   
   >> >> successful living in a hi-tech   
   >> >> society. They simply cannot compete. It is not "racism" that keeps   
   >> >> them out of jobs, it is their noticeable   
   >> >> inability to reason abstractly. We would be better off paying them to   
   >> >> be spayed or neutered.   
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   >> > Read James Flynn's book "What is Intelligence?". Because some people   
   >> > haven't learnt to think abstractly, doesn't imply that they can't   
   >> > learn to think abstractly. Probably your own grandparents or great   
   >> > grandparents would have obtained low scores on tests requiring   
   >> > abstract rather than concrete thinking. Perhaps you would argue that   
   >> > they should have been spayed or castrated ?   
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   >> > Dave Smith   
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   >> Somalis living in my country have all the time in the world to learn   
   >> to think abstractly. They are the greatest immigrant group. At least   
   >> 25% won't make it through the nine-year school. At least 80% are   
   >> unemployed. It's time to accept that differences are insurmountable.   
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   > If your ancestors and mine have changed the way they think over a few   
   >decades,  as the Flynn effect indicates,  then such a negative   
   >conclusion doesn't seem warranted. It might be better to study factors   
   >such as cognitive stimulation, nutrition, attitudes of parents and   
   >peers, and so on,  to see whether the Somalis are disadvantaged in   
   >some relevant way.   
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   >Dave Smith   
      
      
   Blacks have lived in the U.S. for many centuries. They are still   
   hugely disadvantaged, despite having increased their IQ to 85 du to a   
   30% White genetic admixture.   
      
   Certain ethnic groups tend to put much emphasis on the microsocial   
   perspective, and the individual is to a great extent carried by the   
   collective.   
      
   This social principle seems to imply that there is a weaker impetus   
   toward individual emancipation. The foremost principle is instead to   
   be carried by the collective, as opposed to having ambitions and to   
   journey somewhere in life.   
      
   So it all depends on hereditary factors.   
      
   Mats   
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