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   The Flynn effect has already peaked in many Western countries. American   
   Blacks have peaked long ago at IQ 85. This religious belief in everybody's   
   equal   
   capacities is ridiculous. If it's not the Master Race, then it's The   
   Glorious   
   Egalitarian Unity of Mankind. Soon people will drop back to madness   
   racialism.   
   So it goes, back and forth, simply because people refuse to settle at a   
   balanced   
   viewpoint.   
      
   Mats   
      
      
   "Dave Smith"  skrev i meddelandet   
   news:aa4e040b-79d9-45c7-b3d0-c36649f19aac@d37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...   
   On 24 July, 09:55, "M Winther"  wrote:   
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   > > On 23 July, 14:07, "M Winther"  wrote:   
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   > >> There is nothing wrong with my intelligence. I make the empirical   
   > >> observation that Blacks are disadvantaged everywhere in the world.   
   > >> I read books by Rushton, Lynn, Peter Watson, etc., and nobody   
   > >> questions that Blacks, everywhere, have lower IQ. The point of   
   > >> contention is what it depends on. Regardless, this must mean that   
   > >> Blacks are at a disadvantage in modern society (but not in my country   
   > >> because we have such a strong welfare system).   
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   > >> Maybe all these scientists have hoodwinked me and made me believe   
   > >> that there exists a pronounced racial IQ differential. It is possible   
   > >> that   
   > >> I have been fooled. But you will have to pinpoint the errors in their   
   > >> research to make me change opinion in this matter.   
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   > > Your opinion seems to be that differences in IQ, whether within   
   > > groups or between groups, are largely genetically determined. If so,   
   > > why have scores on IQ tests increased so considerably over a matter of   
   > > a few decades?   
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   > > Dave Smith   
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   > Not that much, and they peak after a while anyway, as has occurred in   
   > Denmark and in U.K. It is probably coupled with nutritional factors etc.,   
   > which have improved since the fifties. A nation reaches its potential   
   > under good living circumstances. The relative differences between races   
   > are maintained, it seems.   
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   With a rise of the order of 3 points per decade,  then in half a   
   century there is a rise of 1 standard deviation.  That seems pretty   
   large to me and rather an embarassment for those who wish to exclude   
   environmental factors.  Abstract reasoning is required to do well on   
   the tasks showing most increase,  so the spread of scientific thinking   
   might be a contributory factor, as well as better nutrition, health   
   and so forth.  My prediction is that 'the Flynn effect' will continue   
   in the 'developing' countries and that IQ differences between ethnic   
   groups will decrease with a more level 'playing field' and a blending   
   of cultures.   
      
   Dave Smith   
      
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