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   From: andrewrichardwainwright@hotmail.co.uk   
      
   On 07/11/2012 16:17, M Winther wrote:   
   > "Andy Wainwright"  wrote in message news:k7duev$78a$1@dont-email.me...   
   >   
   >> Materialistic? And you claim people should be treated differently   
   >> according to how they look?   
   >> That's about as bloody materialistic is it's possible to get.   
   >   
   > I don't discuss looks. I discuss a general change in consciousness. I   
   > think that the Somalis and the Bengalese ought to take care of   
   > themselves, regardless of looks, and regardless if they are black or   
   > white. It is materialistic to bother about of these peoples' material   
   > welfare. Earlier in history, we were more concerned with the welfare of   
   > the soul, whether or not people would be allowed entry to heaven. Today,   
   > the materialistic, paradisical, welfare state is regarded the new   
   > heaven. But it is an illusion.   
   >   
   > M. Winther   
      
   All people are equal because the soul alone is what makes a person a   
   person. Machines can do a lot of things, but nothing man made can live   
   in the true sense of the word. We can make cars, we can even make   
   diamonds and gold, we can't make a soul. This suggests that nothing man   
   made is worth as much as a human life.   
      
   It starts getting interesting when you consider that animals presumably   
   have souls, and humans have certain biological features suggesting   
   meat-eating is natural, ie. canine teeth etc, although a human can   
   survive on a vegitarian diet.   
      
   As for third world immigrants, you invade other countries, and other   
   countries people will come you your country. Europeans didn't have to   
   inade Africa, Asia and America, but they did- and unlike the folks   
   who've come to Britain, they just didn't push old ladies around in   
   wheelchairs, drive underground trains, treat cancer patients or staff   
   24-hour shops- working their way up in society honestly. There's been a   
   few terrorists and criminals, although work ethic is generally higher   
   and unemployment usually due to prejudice as opposed to not wanting to   
   work. Go to the typical McDonalds in England and you'll find a lot of   
   ethnic minority staff even though pay is often very little more than   
   welfare- that proves my point. So we should call ourselves lucky.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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