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   From: mlwi@swipnet.se   
      
   "Andy Wainwright"  skrev i   
   meddelandet news:k7fvao$k3d$1@dont-email.me...   
   > On 07/11/2012 16:17, M Winther wrote:   
   >> "Andy Wainwright"  wrote in message   
   >> news:k7duev$78a$1@dont-email.me...   
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   >>> Materialistic? And you claim people should be treated differently   
   >>> according to how they look?   
   >>> That's about as bloody materialistic is it's possible to get.   
   >>   
   >> I don't discuss looks. I discuss a general change in consciousness. I   
   >> think that the Somalis and the Bengalese ought to take care of   
   >> themselves, regardless of looks, and regardless if they are black or   
   >> white. It is materialistic to bother about of these peoples' material   
   >> welfare. Earlier in history, we were more concerned with the welfare   
   >> of   
   >> the soul, whether or not people would be allowed entry to heaven.   
   >> Today,   
   >> the materialistic, paradisical, welfare state is regarded the new   
   >> heaven. But it is an illusion.   
   >>   
   >> M. Winther   
   >   
   > All people are equal because the soul alone is what makes a person a   
   > person. Machines can do a lot of things, but nothing man made can live   
   > in the true sense of the word. We can make cars, we can even make   
   > diamonds and gold, we can't make a soul. This suggests that nothing   
   > man made is worth as much as a human life.   
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   > It starts getting interesting when you consider that animals   
   > presumably have souls, and humans have certain biological features   
   > suggesting meat-eating is natural, ie. canine teeth etc, although a   
   > human can survive on a vegitarian diet.   
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   > As for third world immigrants, you invade other countries, and other   
   > countries people will come you your country. Europeans didn't have to   
   > inade Africa, Asia and America, but they did- and unlike the folks   
   > who've come to Britain, they just didn't push old ladies around in   
   > wheelchairs, drive underground trains, treat cancer patients or staff   
   > 24-hour shops- working their way up in society honestly. There's been   
   > a few terrorists and criminals, although work ethic is generally   
   > higher and unemployment usually due to prejudice as opposed to not   
   > wanting to work. Go to the typical McDonalds in England and you'll   
   > find a lot of ethnic minority staff even though pay is often very   
   > little more than welfare- that proves my point. So we should call   
   > ourselves lucky.   
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   I made an effort and wrote all this, and all you can do it to discuss   
   trivial matters. I am discussing the consequences for our civilization,   
   regardless if immigrants work in McDonalds. It is depressing that you   
   can't see farther than your nose.   
      
   M. Winther   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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