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   mur@.not. to David Dalton   
   Re: having some doubts   
   26 Jun 14 16:59:02   
   
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   On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 00:01:57 -0230, David Dalton  wrote:   
   .   
   >In article <5v4jq99l9jejdklbf86m987ik4v43cbgjt@4ax.com>, mur@.not.   
   >wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 23:04:12 -0230, David Dalton  wrote:   
   >> .   
   >> >In article <5qd6q9ppr74n6kr5dciqt3bei6g2nc8fbm@4ax.com>, mur@.not.   
   >> >wrote:   
   >> >   
   >> >> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 01:02:22 -0230, David Dalton  wrote:   
   >> >> .   
   >> >> >In article <19bmp9hme2n7tg15gvfe17n76r9t4bnfj1@4ax.com>, mur@.not.   
   >> >> >wrote:   
   >> >> >   
   >> >> >> On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 00:27:57 -0230, David Dalton    
   >> >> >> wrote:   
   >> >> >>   
   >> >> >> >In article , mur@.not.   
   >> >> >> >wrote:   
   >> >> >> >   
   >> >> >> >> On Fri, 06 Jun 2014 02:56:34 -0230, David Dalton    
   >> >> >> >> wrote:   
   >> >> >   
   >> >> >> >> >4.  mystic "live" sparks as opposed to dead normal static ones   
   >> >> >> >>   
   >> >> >> >>     Where?   
   >> >> >> >   
   >> >> >> >The first one was in the center of my inner right forearm.   
   >> >> >> >I was barefoot at the time and the air wasn't very dry and   
   >> >> >> >I was standing in the middle of the room well away from   
   >> >> >> >any metal.   
   >> >> >>   
   >> >> >>     How long did it last and what did it do?   
   >> >> >   
   >> >> >It didn't last long, maybe half a second, and it zapped   
   >> >> >me, but I didn't see any light.   Also it felt more   
   >> >> >alive, like a hummingbird, than a usual static zap.   
   >> >>   
   >> >>     Well if a deity had something to do with it then there doesn't seem   
   >> >>     like   
   >> >> there's much point in trying to pretend otherwise.   
   >> >   
   >> >Since that first spark occurred when my then yoga teacher   
   >> >was demonstrating Valakhilyasana,  I attribute the   
   >> >mystic sparks to Valakhilya, who in B.K.S. Iyengar's   
   >> >Light on Yoga are defined as thumb-sized entities   
   >> >that precede the sun's chariot.  I refer to them as   
   >> >little messengers of the sun, and consider them to   
   >> >be energy beings and a form of angels, but not as   
   >> >deities to me   
   >>   
   >>     My impression is that angels are messengers of deities as yours also   
   >>     seems   
   >> to be, so they are still evidence of the deity and also that it's trying to   
   >> help   
   >> you understand something.   
   >>   
   >> >(though the sun is a deity to me).   
   >>   
   >>     Why would you consider the sun to be a deity?   
   >   
   >I consider the sun to be a powerful conscious being   
      
       Why would you think that???   
      
   >that   
   >I revere, and hence it is a deity to me.   I associate it   
   >with my sun stare of Sept. 5, 1991 and think that I   
   >contacted it then, wordlessly.   Also M-class solar   
   >flares came a couple of days before onsets of at   
   >least four of my five waning crescent highs, and   
   >those highs all came during high to medium years of   
   >the solar sunspot cycle.   I expected to come out   
   >of the low years a sunspot cycle after my first waning   
   >crescent high, but that did not occur, so I now hope   
   >the sun will bring me out of the low years during   
   >this current high period of the sunspot cycle instead   
   >(a little over a sunspot cycle later than I thought it would).   
   >   
   >Why would you find it unusual that I consider the   
   >sun to be a deity to me?   
      
       Because there's no reason to believe it is alive much less that it has any   
   sort of intelligence.   
      
   >None of my eight main   
   >deities are anthropomorphic or gendered.  Also   
   >I have read that there is some evidence that the   
   >God of the Old Testament was originally a solar   
   >deity.   
   >   
   >Again my eight main deities are ALL, LOVE2, Universe,   
   >Galaxy, Sun, Earth, Moon, and Human, and they are   
   >defined on http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/deities.html .   
   >I consider myself to be a polytheistic pantheist.   
      
       I believe a deity would be alive and intelligent, leaving out most of the   
   things you're thinking about.   
      
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