XPost: alt.atheism, alt.agnosticism, sci.skeptic   
   XPost: alt.christnet   
   From: bruces42@hotmail.com   
      
   On 06/28/2014 07:11 PM, felix_unger wrote:   
   > On 29-June-2014 10:54 AM, BruceS wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 06/26/2014 01:06 PM, bilgat@m.nu wrote:   
   >>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 19:19:28 +1000, felix_unger    
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 25-June-2014 2:02 AM, bilgat@m.nu wrote:   
   >>>>> once a person is an atheist that person will always be an atheist.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> untrue   
   >>>   
   >>> I guess you know because you are an atheist?   
   >>>   
   >>> YOU HAVE NO IDEA you little fucking gimp. You dont know what it is   
   >>> like to know the truth. You dont know what it is like to realize that   
   >>> you have been lied to by most people for your entire life. You dont   
   >>> know what it is like then the people come to your door trying to sell   
   >>> god and you cant help but feel so sorry for them for being such   
   >>> idiots.   
   >>>   
   >>> No you will never know what it is like because your mind wiill never   
   >>> be opend to what the world is really like. You will never know because   
   >>> your brain just is not able to understand the truth   
   >>   
   >> I have to agree with Felix on this one.   
   >   
   > I have to wonder why anyone would disagree. it's common knowledge plenty   
   > of ppl have converted either way - to or from religious faith   
   >   
   >> I've known atheists who became religious, nearly always Christian. I   
   >> had a HS friend who was no more interested in invisible sky monkeys   
   >> than I was; more focused on scoring some weed and getting high.   
   >   
   > ahhh.. a typical atheist then.. :)   
   >   
   >> After we graduated and went our separate ways, he seemed to keep "the   
   >> faith" for a while,   
   >   
   > yet many atheists want to deny there's faith involved. the reality is   
   > however that atheism is a belief that one has faith in the veracity of   
      
   No, not any sort of faith in regards to atheism.  He (like me) was an   
   atheist by default.  With no evidence to support any one of the many   
   gods proposed, he had no reason to believe.  I meant "keep the faith" in   
   terms of being a bit of a stoner.  He took a kilo of grass to college,   
   for instance.   
      
   >> but then one vacation he had become "saved" and talked about little   
   >> but Jesus. At first I thought he was pulling my leg, but he was   
   >> serious. A few months later he had regained his sense, but later still   
   >> had a relapse. He's not the only one I've known to suddenly embrace   
   >> irrationality and superstition, just the one who came to mind first.   
   >> Many people who go through life as atheists suddenly start one or   
   >> another form of "spiritualism" when faced with their own mortality.   
   >> I've been appalled at the mental lapses shown merely from taking an   
   >> abstract reality and bringing it to the foreground. When I went   
   >> through my own little dance with Mr. D, I found no more urge to   
   >> religion than before, but apparently many people deal with their fear   
   >> of imminent death by believing in some system that allows them to live   
   >> forever.   
   >   
   > a lot would depend on how comfortable ppl are within themselves, and   
   > with what they believe, I would suggest   
      
   I agree.  It seems that some people are suddenly very uncomfortable with   
   their lives and their (likely short) futures when faced with serious   
   disease, etc.  That's when they start looking for some magical way to   
   avoid death.  I wasn't at all happy with the idea of dying in my forties   
   (no longer possible!), but I accepted that could happen and that I   
   couldn't invoke any magic to avoid it.  I've made plenty of mistakes,   
   but I'm comfortable with that.   
      
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