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   mur@.not. to BruceS   
   Re: SAD defeat of the atheist community    
   02 Jul 14 11:28:09   
   
   XPost: alt.atheism, alt.agnosticism, sci.skeptic   
   XPost: alt.christnet   
      
   On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 18:47:04 -0600, BruceS  wrote:   
   .   
   >On 06/29/2014 06:51 AM, bilgat@m.nu wrote:   
   >> On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 18:54:23 -0600, BruceS    
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 06/26/2014 01:06 PM, bilgat@m.nu wrote:   
   >>>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 19:19:28 +1000, felix_unger    
   >>>> wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 25-June-2014 2:02 AM, bilgat@m.nu wrote:   
   >>>>>> once a person is an atheist that person will always be an atheist.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> untrue   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I guess you know because you are an atheist?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> YOU HAVE NO IDEA you little fucking gimp. You dont know what it is   
   >>>> like to know the truth. You dont know what it is like to realize that   
   >>>> you have been lied to by most people for your entire life. You dont   
   >>>> know what it is like then the people come to your door trying to sell   
   >>>> god and you cant help but feel so sorry for them for being such   
   >>>> idiots.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> No you will never know what it is like because your mind wiill never   
   >>>> be opend to what the world is really like. You will never know because   
   >>>> your brain just is not able to understand the truth   
   >>>   
   >>> I have to agree with Felix on this one.  I've known atheists who became   
   >>> religious, nearly always Christian.  I had a HS friend who was no more   
   >>> interested in invisible sky monkeys than I was; more focused on scoring   
   >>> some weed and getting high.  After we graduated and went our separate   
   >>> ways, he seemed to keep "the faith" for a while, but then one vacation   
   >>> he had become "saved" and talked about little but Jesus   
   >>   
   >> just because a person is not a practicing theist does not make them   
   >> atheist or agnostic even. If a person can not say with 100% clarity   
   >> that they know that there is no god that there will never be a god and   
   >> there has never been a god, then that person is NOT an atheist.   
   >   
   >You seem to be arguing for theists' definition of "atheist".  Under that   
   >definition, I'm not an atheist, but I'm not sure what you'd call me.  I   
   >define myself as an atheist because I have no belief in any gods.   
      
       We know you can consider the possibility that there is no God associated   
   with Earth. Try to provide evidence youe can consider the possibility that   
   there   
   IS a God associated with Earth. If/When you can't do that it will be clear the   
   only possibility your mind is capable of is no God. That being all you're   
   mentally capable means that's all you're capable of believing. Why are you   
   ashamed of it? That's the only thing in question. Well, that and since you are   
   ashamed of it why don't you try to change it? That goes for ALL of your atheist   
   brethren who like to pretend they have no belief even though they can only   
   consider the one possibility. Since you/they are so ashamed of it, why don't   
   you   
   try to become what you so pitifully try to pretend you are, which is a person   
   with no belief?   
      
       Here's a clue for you: Since the possibility that God does not exist is a   
   dead end and only one possibility, it involves very VERY little consideration.   
   Since the possibilities that God does exist are vast and endless, considering   
   those possibilities involves a lot of consideration. That's a starting line for   
   you. See if ANY OF YOU can get as "far" as that starting line.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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