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   mur@.not. to All   
   Re: having some doubts   
   02 Jul 14 11:28:46   
   
   XPost: alt.atheism, alt.agnosticism   
      
   On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 23:08:36 +0000 (UTC), Smil apparently tried a horribly   
   dishonest trick:   
   .   
   >On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 00:36:36 +1000, felix_unger wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 28-June-2014 12:19 AM, Free Lunch wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 13:41:00 +1000, felix_unger  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 27-June-2014 6:59 AM, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 17:19:23 -0500, Free Lunch    
   >>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>> ..   
   >>>>>> On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 11:06:04 -0400, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 18:34:55 -0500, Free Lunch   
   >>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>> .   
   >>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:17:27 -0400, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 01:02:22 -0230, David Dalton   
   >>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> .   
   >>>>>>>>>> In article <19bmp9hme2n7tg15gvfe17n76r9t4bnfj1@4ax.com>,   
   >>>>>>>>>> mur@.not.   
   >>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 00:27:57 -0230, David Dalton   
   >>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> In article ,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> mur@.not.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 06 Jun 2014 02:56:34 -0230, David Dalton   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.  mystic "live" sparks as opposed to dead normal static   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>       Where?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> The first one was in the center of my inner right forearm.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> I was barefoot at the time and the air wasn't very dry and I   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> was standing in the middle of the room well away from any   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> metal.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>       How long did it last and what did it do?   
   >>>>>>>>>> It didn't last long, maybe half a second, and it zapped me, but   
   >>>>>>>>>> I didn't see any light.   Also it felt more alive, like a   
   >>>>>>>>>> hummingbird, than a usual static zap.   
   >>>>>>>>>      Well if a deity had something to do with it then there   
   >>>>>>>>>      doesn't seem like   
   >>>>>>>>> there's much point in trying to pretend otherwise.   
   >>>>>>>> Why do you pretend that there are deities when there is no reason   
   >>>>>>>> to accept such a silly claim?   
   >>>>>>>      I don't know if there are deities associated with Earth or   
   >>>>>>>      not. If there are   
   >>>>>>> I don't know if they have any influence on people's lives or not. I   
   >>>>>>> consider the possibility that there are none. But I also take it   
   >>>>>>> waaaaaaaayy beyond what your little mind can do and also consider   
   >>>>>>> that there might be, leaving you far far behind. Though I don't   
   >>>>>>> know if there are any deities associated with Earth or not, I DO   
   >>>>>>> KNOW that you don't know that it's "silly" to consider the   
   >>>>>>> possibility that there are. I also know that it's stupid to put   
   >>>>>>> faith in the one possibility that you put your faith in.   
   >>>>>> Whatever. Your arrogance is unsupported by evidence.   
   >>>>>       Try to provide evidence that I'm wrong about any of the things   
   >>>>>       I've pointed   
   >>>>> out.   
   >>>> interesting that ppl who have no evidence for their belief demand   
   >>>> evidence of others for theirs. but then they are not about truth and   
   >>>> honesty, they just want to deny any possibility of any supernatural   
   >>>> existence   
   >>> There is no evidence regarding gods,   
   >>   
   >> wrong   
   >>   
   >>>   that I why I don't bother to   
   >>> believe in them. If you ever find any evidence, let me know. Until   
   >>> then,   
   >>> I will ignore the competing claims of all religions.   
   >>>   
   >>> Tell me why you don't think that various competing religions is   
   >>> evidence against the claim that a god exists?   
   >>   
   >> because different cultures form different beliefs about the nature of   
   >> (the creator) God   
   >   
   >Therefore, you believe that all gods are one and the same.   
   >Please tell us what HRH, Prince Philip, The Duke of Edinburgh, who is a   
   >god to some South Seas Islanders, created.   
   >What did His Excellency, Haili Selassie, Emperor of Ethiopia, who was a   
   >god to Rastafarians, create?   
   >What did the Pharaohs, gods to Ancient Egyptians, create?   
   >What has the moon, worshipped as a god in the past, ever created?   
   >What has Mars, a Roman god, ever created?   
      
       You're trying to compare apples with buldozers. I appears to be an obvious   
   horribly dishonest attempt at a trick, but if you want people to think there's   
   some honest aspect to it then try to explain what you want them to think it   
   could be. If you can't, or your attempted explanation sux as badly as your   
   comparisons, then it will be extremely strong evidence if not actual proof that   
   you tried to get away with a horribly dishonest trick which so far it appears   
   clear that you have.   
      
   >Now explain how all these are one and the same as your favourite flavour   
   >of god.   
      
       YOU need to explain how YOU want people to think they could all be the same   
   as a God who created ("different beliefs about the nature of (the creator)   
   God")   
   and influenced life on Earth since YOU are the one who is making the what   
   appears to be a retardedly dishonest comparison.   
      
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