XPost: alt.atheism, alt.agnosticism, sci.skeptic   
   XPost: alt.christnet   
   From: me@nothere.biz   
      
   On 02-July-2014 8:40 AM, BruceS wrote:   
   > On 07/01/2014 12:36 PM, bilgat@m.nu wrote:   
   >   
   >> why are you not agnostic. you sound alot more agnostic than atheist.   
   >>   
   >> Agnostic holds the position that the existence of a god is   
   >> unknowable   
   >   
   > There's the rub. Agnosticism holds that it's not possible to know   
   > whether gods exist. I don't buy that. I'm perfectly willing to accept   
   > the existence of gods, given objective evidence for their existence.   
   > Having not seen any such evidence, I remain without any belief in   
   > their existence.   
      
   so lets talk about what you do believe then, to be consistent with your   
   position of no evidence for God. you believe then that NO prayer has   
   ever been answered or ever will be. you believe that NO person ever has   
   ever had any spiritual encounter or experience, or ever will. you   
   believe there's NO evidence that Jesus ever existed, despite what is   
   written in the bible. you believe that NO story in the bible, or any   
   other holy book, is true or really happened. you believe that NO   
   prophecy has ever been or ever will be fulfilled. you believe there is   
   NO creator, and all life and existence must have some other cause or   
   origin. you believe there is NO afterlife although you can't prove it.   
   you believe that ALL the billions of ppl who believe in God are deluded.   
   and so on, and so on. Of course you can and will believe what you like,   
   but I as I've said, I believe the claim that there's no evidence for God   
   is just silly, and that it takes much more to credulity to believe it   
   than to accept that there is evidence, because there clearly is. the   
   more I see atheists wanting to deny there's any evidence for God, the   
   more I'm convinced they're simply running scared from the possibility   
   that any religious claims may be true. I've yet to see any atheist come   
   out and say.. "yes, there's plenty of evidence for God, but I simply   
   don't want to accept it"   
      
      
      
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