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   From: sylvia@not.at.this.address   
      
   On 7/08/2014 4:54 AM, James wrote:   
   > Sylvia Else    
   >> On 5/08/2014 5:25 AM, James wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> Reason on this hypothetical situation. Set a model car kit (with all   
   >>> the pieces disconnected) and the glue, and paint, out in the elements   
   >>> for millions of years, in the wind, cold and heat, bad storms,   
   >>> earthquakes (if in a zone), animals and microorganisms, etc. Do you   
   >>> logically believe that in all that time, those parts would eventually   
   >>> come together by random forces to put a painted model car together?   
   >>   
   >> Not the wouldn't.   
   >>   
   >>> It   
   >>> should be easier to make that car. than the complexities of the   
   >>> 'simple' cell.   
   >>   
   >> Ah - wait - they're not the same kind of thing. For your example to make   
   >> any kind of sense, you'd have to posit that the car parts, glue, etc.   
   >> are capable of reproducing themselves, but that they occasionally make   
   >> mistakes in reproduction, and those mistakes are carried on by the   
   >> offspring.   
   >   
   > Darwin's first cell was not reproduced by anything. It allegedly all   
   > came together in a primordial 'soup'. (at least that is what they tell   
   > us) Have you ever looked at what is involved in a so-called simple   
   > cell? I couldn't hardly believe it when I looked into it. Just check   
   > out all the stuff that makes up a 'simple' cell.   
      
   .   
      
   >   
   > But what are the odds that it all came together by random chance? For   
   > example, we have within us protein molecules, which are necessary for   
   > our life processes. What are the odds that 1 protein molecule would   
   > randomly form out of a primitive organic "soup"? Evolutionists admit   
   > that it would be about 1 in 10 to the 113th power. (1 followed by 113   
   > zeros). According to mathematicians, any event that has just one   
   > chance in 10 to the 50th power (1 followed by 50 zeros) is dismissed   
   > as never happening. To get a sense of that number with 113 zeros, it   
   > would be greater than the estimated total number of all the atoms in   
   > the universe.   
      
   All that was required was the chance appearance of a molecule that was   
   capable of copying itself. Once you have that, everything else can be   
   produced by evolution. There's no requirement for the random appearance   
   of a complete cell.   
      
   Sylvia.   
      
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