XPost: alt.atheism, alt.agnosticism, sci.skeptic   
   XPost: alt.christnet   
   From: sylvia@not.at.this.address   
      
   On 8/08/2014 4:25 AM, James wrote:   
      
   > So you are saying the first cell had to be of the kind that could self   
   > reproduce?   
      
   That's an interesting distortion of what I said.   
      
   The first reproducing thing, not being a cell, and possibly just a   
   single molecule, had to be capable of reproducing (by definition). We   
   don't know what the odds are.   
      
   The first reproducing cell would have evolved from that (or perhaps from   
   a later reproducing thing, if the first died out). Since that's an   
   evolutionary process, a simplistic approach to the probabilities doesn't   
   work.   
      
   > You just upped  the odds about a zillion times.  The above odds   
   > figures was based on one protein molecule coming out of a primordial   
   > soup, not the whole cell. And the protein molecule (made up of amino   
   > acids) was not self producing.   
   >   
   > Also, look at what you are saying. You are saying a human being came   
   > together by no mind.   
      
   Er, where did I say that? It's not even implied by what I wrote.   
      
   I know people who believe in God, but are otherwise apparently capable   
   of reasoning correctly. Clearly, that's not always the case.   
      
   Sylvia.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)