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   On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 14:42:55 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason    
   wrote:   
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   >On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 14:50:27 -0400, mur wrote:   
   >   
   >> The retarded atheist poster child bilgat@m.nu has often claimed that he   
   >> somehow "knows" God does not exist.   
   >   
   >Actually, that one's pretty trivial. God is purported to be omniscient   
   >and omnipotent. These lead, fairly directly, to unavoidable   
   >contradictions.   
      
    Agreed.   
      
   >If God - or any being - is claimed to be omniscient or omnipotent then   
   >they can be summarily dismissed as non-existent.   
      
    No it doesn't. Just because someone believes snakes can roll themselves   
   into   
   the form of a hoop and then roll like wheel doesn't mean snakes don't exist.   
      
   >Where it gets marginally more interesting is when the entity involved is   
   >not "omni" anything, just "very very" whatever. Very, very powerful, not   
   >all powerful. Very, very knowledgeable, not all knowing. Then a variant   
   >of Clarke's Law comes into play: any sufficiently advanced being is   
   >indistinguishable from a god.   
      
    There's no reason to believe there are no beings who can be considered Gods   
   anywhere in the universe.   
      
   >Your call: is your God thing all-powerful or all-knowing, and thus non-   
   >existent? Or is it merely very powerful, very knowledgeable, in which   
   >case how do you tell whether it is a god, or just, perhaps, a member of   
   >an alien species a little more developed than humans?   
      
    Since I believe omnipotence and omniscience are impossible I don't believe   
   God is either if he exists, but instead that people have exaggerated. Unless   
   you   
   can say how he could be a native of Earth I take it for granted he would have   
   to   
   be an alien, and he would have to be MUCH MUCH....!!! more developed than   
   humans, not just "a little". Those are all basic starting lines regarding this   
   topic. Are you able to get as "far" as any of those starting lines?   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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