XPost: alt.atheism, alt.agnosticism, sci.skeptic   
   XPost: alt.christnet   
      
   On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 10:58:46 -0700, Bob Casanova  wrote:   
      
   >On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:01:38 -0400, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Sat, 06 Sep 2014 10:15:34 -0700, Bob Casanova  wrote:   
   >>.   
   >>>On Fri, 05 Sep 2014 14:43:49 -0400, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>On Thu, 04 Sep 2014 10:36:21 -0700, Bob Casanova  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 18:50:32 -0400, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>On Sat, 30 Aug 2014 10:50:44 -0700, Bob Casanova  wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 15:31:50 -0400, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 10:38:03 -0700, Bob Casanova continued to wuss   
   horribly and   
   >>>>>>>>horribly dishonestly:   
   >>>>>>>>.   
   >>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 20:38:38 -0400, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 10:18:34 -0700, Bob Casanova wussed horribly:   
   >>>>>>>>>>.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 22 Aug 2014 15:22:07 -0400, mur@.not. challenged the   
   horrible wusses:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 10:25:29 -0700, Bob Casanova wussed horribly:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:54:19 -0400,  mur@.not. challenged the   
   horrible wusses:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 10:23:51 -0700, Bob Casanova wussed horribly:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 17:34:26 -0400, mur@.not. challenged the   
   horrible wusses:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 11:06:26 -0700, Bob Casanova wussed   
   horribly:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 10:50:05 -0400, mur@.not. challenged the   
   horrible wusses:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 04 Aug 2014 10:56:28 -0700, Bob Casanova wussed   
   horribly:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 14:50:31 -0400, mur@.not. challenged   
   the horrible wusses:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>When challenged directly and specifically about the   
   supposed   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>evidence they think should exist...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It's up to the claimant (that's you) to provide the evidence   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to support the claim. Provide the evidence you think you   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>have and we can discuss it; it's *your* responsibility to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>support your contention. *You* think you have evidence;   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>*you* provide it.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Then why isn't it up to the atheist to explain WHAT he   
   thinks he's trying to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>talk about?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Because it's up to the claimant (that's you) to provide the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>evidence to support the claim.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    The claim is that none of you have any idea what you think   
   you're trying to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>talk about when you demand evidence of God's existence, and   
   every one of you has   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>provided proof that what I pointed out is correct. My claim   
   has been proven true   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>by ALL OF YOU.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sorry, but no;   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>    That's a blatant lie.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>Sorry, but no   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>    That's a repeat of the desperately blatant lie which proves   
   that none of you   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>have any idea what you think you're trying to talk about when you   
   demand   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>evidence,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>Yes, it is   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>    Every one of you continues to prove me correct, consistently.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>and can't even pretend you do. Repeating the desperate lie is proof   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>that you're ashamed of your position, as you certainly should be.   
   >>>>>>>>>>...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>your attempt to shift the goalposts   
   >>>>>>>>>>>away from your claim that evidence exists in support of the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>existence of a deity.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>    You're lying blatantly when you try to pretend I haven't pointed   
   out some of   
   >>>>>>>>>>the evidence.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>No, I'm not.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>    That's a blatant lie.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>You haven't;   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>    That's a blatant lie.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>you've only done the same as you   
   >>>>>>>>>do below. None of what you cite is evidence.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>    That's three blatant lies.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>As I've pointed out for you before life itself is evidence.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>No, it isn't.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>    It sure is and even IF some day humans figure out how to produce   
   life from   
   >>>>>>>>lifeless material it might STILL REMAIN the evidence that it always   
   has been.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>The existence of something isn't evidence for   
   >>>>>>>>>how it came to exist.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>    You have no evidence that it just happened by accident, or even   
   that it   
   >>>>>>>>could have.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>All   
   >>>>>>>>>>accepted miracles are evidence. All miracles recorded in the Bible   
   are evidence.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>There are none,   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>    That's a HORRIBLY blatant lie. What did you think you could   
   possibly gain by   
   >>>>>>>>telling such and horribly stupid and horribly blatant lie as that???   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>and nothing in the Bible (or the Vedas, or   
   >>>>>>>>>the Koran) is evidence of anything but the fact that someone   
   >>>>>>>>>wrote a story.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>All saints are evidence.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>No, they aren't;   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>    That's another blatant lie.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>saints are proclaimed by the church, which   
   >>>>>>>>>is an organization of humans, not deities.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>    The things required in order for someone to be considered a saint   
   are   
   >>>>>>>>evidence of God's existence and his influence on them.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>Atheists are evidence.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>No, they aren't.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>    Yes they are. YOU are. Not only because life itself is, but also   
   because   
   >>>>>>>>your dependence on and obvious comfort with using blatant dishonesty   
   so stupid   
   >>>>>>>>it makes no sense for anyone to think they could gain anything by   
   telling such   
   >>>>>>>>obvious lies, is evidence of God's existence by being evidence of   
   Satan's   
   >>>>>>>>existence and influence on your pathetic weak mind. The same is true   
   of all your   
   >>>>>>>>blatantly dishonest brethren, all of you being evidence of Satan's   
   influence in   
   >>>>>>>>your lives. The Bible and Koran both mention it too, which is MORE   
   evidence of   
   >>>>>>>>God's existence because of atheists.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>And that is as stupid an assertion as I've   
   >>>>>>>>>ever seen from you, and that's saying something.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>All medical miracles are   
   >>>>>>>>>>evidence.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>No, they aren't.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>    That's just another horribly blatant lie, which is evidence of   
   Satan's   
      
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