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   From: bruces42@hotmail.com   
      
   On 09/15/2014 10:07 PM, Olrik wrote:   
   > Le 2014-09-15 23:04, felix_unger a écrit :   
   >> On 15-September-2014 7:54 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 14/09/2014 1:57 AM, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 23:14:54 -0400, Olrik  wrote:   
   >>>> .   
   >>>>> Le 2014-09-10 14:47, mur@.not. a écrit :   
   >>>>>> Would they be able to post at all?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> What lies?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> All of them. Of course the biggest is that there's no evidence for   
   >>>> God's   
   >>>> existence, when if there really was no evidence there would be   
   >>>> nothing for   
   >>>> anyone to believe in.   
   >>>   
   >>> The alternative possibility is that people believe despite the absence   
   >>> of evidence.   
   >>   
   >> no, ppl believe on the basis of what evidence exists, but despite the   
   >> absence of proof.   
   >   
   > You must have a very special definition of «evidence».   
      
   It pretty much boils down to: "People wouldn't believe it if there were   
   no evidence.  People do believe all sorts of rubbish.  Therefore, there   
   is evidence for said rubbish."  The very fact that people are   
   superstitious is used to support that superstition.  If you look around   
   a bit, you'll see we've been on this little merry-go-round a few times.   
     So, next time someone asks you for evidence of fire-breathing dragons,   
   show them some of Anne McCaffrey's work.  Advanced life on Mars?  Edgar   
   Rice Burroughs.  Santa Claus and his flying reindeer?  Just ask any of   
   the myriad children who believe it.  An all-powerful sociopath who likes   
   to murder children?  Check out the Bible.  If you're looking for actual   
   evidence, that would be accepted as such by people who don't base their   
   lives on fairy dust and wishful thinking, then "the number you have   
   reached has been disconnected and is no longer in service.  If you feel   
   you have reached this message in error, please try your comment again."   
      
   Instead of "no evidence", just remind the True Believers that the   
   evidence for *their* particular lunatic magic world is no better than   
   the evidence for any of the other lunatic magic worlds in competition   
   with theirs.  IOW, we accept that Yaweh the Serial Murderer is every bit   
   as well supported as The Cat in the Hat.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)