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   mur@.not. to Malte Runz   
   Re: What if atheists could somehow be pr   
   28 Sep 14 21:04:21   
   
   XPost: alt.atheism, alt.agnosticism, sci.skeptic   
   XPost: alt.christnet   
      
   On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 12:23:27 +0200, "Malte Runz"    
   wrote:   
   .   
   >"grabber"  skrev i meddelelsen news:CAEVv.595807$7b1.280829@fx01.am4...   
   >   
   >(snip)   
   >   
   >   
   >> And I don't think there's a disagreement between you [felix_unger] and   
   >> Malte about whether that material represents good grounds in believing in   
   >> Nessie/BF/UFOs. ...   
   >   
   >I believe there's a huge disagreement. f_u regards any and every kind of   
   >hearsay as evidence: 'I was abducted and probed!!!' is evidence for UFO's   
   >having visited Earth. 'Millions of people believe in God and there is this   
   >book...' is also valid evidence for the existence of God. In my book none of   
   >that is evidence.   
   >   
   >> ... And if there is, that's clearly not what you're interested in arguing   
   >> about, either.   
   >>   
   >> All you're interested in arguing about is whether that stuff meets your   
   >> particular chosen sense of the word "evidence". ...   
   >   
   >I agree, and I ask myself why he is willing to accept that hearsay about   
   >Dog-Heads is valid, sensible and reliable evidence for their existence.   
   >   
   >I know that 'common sense' very commonly doesn't make any sense, but you   
   >have to use your brains once in a while and discard the most obvious   
   >nonsense. Hearsay, ancient books and biased witnesses' testimony is not   
   >reliable and should never be regarded as useful evidence.   
   >   
   >(snip)   
      
       LOL!!! So people you have never met and don't know a damn thing about say   
   they were abducted by aliens. To begin with we have no strong reason to   
   disbelieve them not knowing the people or whether or not aliens ever abduct   
   anyone. But then YOU say no they were not, and then we're supposed to put faith   
   in that and consider YOU saying "no" as "evidence" against what they said   
   happened to them...LOL.........and also feel that it's "common sense" to put   
   all   
   our faith in YOUR claim...LOL... As usual, just describing you peoples'   
   position   
   is AGAIN HILARIOUS!!!!   
      
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    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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