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   mur@.not. to Mitchell Holman   
   Re: What if atheists could somehow be pr   
   28 Sep 14 21:04:26   
   
   XPost: alt.atheism, alt.agnosticism, sci.skeptic   
   XPost: alt.christnet   
      
   On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 20:53:54 -0500, Mitchell Holman  wrote:   
   .   
   >mur@.not. wrote in news:p5692a51l3q7udvc0ism4ou8r8td1s1cbo@4ax.com:   
   >   
   >> On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 18:37:36 +1000, Sylvia Else   
   >>  wrote:   
   >> .   
   >>>On 19/09/2014 7:21 AM, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>> On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 19:54:14 +1000, Sylvia Else   
   >>>>  wrote:   
   >>>> .   
   >>>>> On 14/09/2014 1:57 AM, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 23:14:54 -0400, Olrik    
   >>>>>> wrote: .   
   >>>>>>> Le 2014-09-10 14:47, mur@.not. a écrit :   
   >>>>>>>>        Would they be able to post at all?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> What lies?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>       All of them. Of course the biggest is that there's no   
   >>>>>>       evidence for God's   
   >>>>>> existence, when if there really was no evidence there would be   
   >>>>>> nothing for anyone to believe in.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> The alternative possibility is that people believe despite the   
   >>>>> absence of evidence.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> As an argument for the existence of God, it really doesn't work. It   
   >>>>> just leaves open the question of why people believe.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>      If there really was no evidence there would be nothing for them   
   >>>>      to believe.   
   >>>   
   >>>If you believe that, I'm forced to ask you what the evidence is for   
   >>>it?   
   >>>   
   >>>Generally, all that's required is to conceive of something to believe,   
   >>>and then believe it. Evidence is an optional extra.   
   >>   
   >>     How do you imagine it happened then? Since none of you can explain   
   >>     what sort   
   >> of evidence you think there should be, or where it should be, or why   
   >> it should be there if God exists, try explaining how the evidence you   
   >> say doesn't exist came to be in the first place. Try explaining in   
   >> detail how you think the books of the Bible came into existence from   
   >> the very start, and why they did. Then go on to explain how the   
   >> supposed lies were kept going and most importantly how billions of   
   >> people were persuaded to believe the supposed lies.   
   >   
   >   
   >    Huh?   
   >   
   >    What does it matter how many people believe something?   
      
       Because there has to be reason for them to believe it. That's a starting   
   line for you to try to get as "far" as. What if you ever could get as far as   
   the   
   starting line? I wonder....LOL...I have to wonder because none of you have   
   gotten that "far" yet...LOL... You people are hilarious!!!!   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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