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   On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 19:29:36 +0100, grabber  wrote:   
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   >On 28/09/2014 11:23, Malte Runz wrote:   
   >> "grabber"  skrev i meddelelsen news:CAEVv.595807$7b1.280829@fx01.am4...   
   >>   
   >> (snip)   
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   >>   
   >>> And I don't think there's a disagreement between you [felix_unger] and   
   >>> Malte about whether that material represents good grounds in believing in   
   >>> Nessie/BF/UFOs. ...   
   >>   
   >> I believe there's a huge disagreement.   
   >   
   >I don't see any sign that it's anything more than a "huge disagreement"   
   >about the definition of "evidence".   
   >   
   >Do you think that felix thinks there are good grounds for believing in   
   >Nessie? I haven't seen anything that gives us a clue that he does (nor   
   >that he doesn't), because he resolutely refuses talk about that, or   
   >indeed anything that would be a move away from his favourite activity of   
   >disputing the definition of "evidence".   
   >   
   >> f_u regards any and every kind of   
   >> hearsay as evidence:   
   >   
   >Of course he does, because he thinks that all kinds of hearsay are   
   >included in his beloved definition, which is all he is interested in   
   >debating. If you could get him to talk about the circumstances in which   
   >he thinks hearsay might or might not be considered adequate grounds for   
   >believing something, then you might actually get somewhere. But I   
   >predict that you will never be able to get him to discuss this.   
      
       Here's a challenge that has defeated every atheist who has been presented   
   with it so far. See if you can be the first to give a respectable reply to it:   
      
       Try to explain WHAT sort of evidence you think there "should be", WHERE you   
   think it "should be", and WHY you think it "should be" to God's benefit for him   
   to provide us with it if he exists.   
      
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