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   On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:57:20 -0500, Mitchell Holman  wrote:   
   .   
   >On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 21:04:26 -0400, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 20:53:54 -0500, Mitchell Holman  wrote:   
   >>.   
   >>>mur@.not. wrote in news:p5692a51l3q7udvc0ism4ou8r8td1s1cbo@4ax.com:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 18:37:36 +1000, Sylvia Else   
   >>>>  wrote:   
   >>>> .   
   >>>>>On 19/09/2014 7:21 AM, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 19:54:14 +1000, Sylvia Else   
   >>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>> .   
   >>>>>>> On 14/09/2014 1:57 AM, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 23:14:54 -0400, Olrik    
   >>>>>>>> wrote: .   
   >>>>>>>>> Le 2014-09-10 14:47, mur@.not. a écrit :   
   >>>>>>>>>>        Would they be able to post at all?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> What lies?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>       All of them. Of course the biggest is that there's no   
   >>>>>>>>       evidence for God's   
   >>>>>>>> existence, when if there really was no evidence there would be   
   >>>>>>>> nothing for anyone to believe in.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> The alternative possibility is that people believe despite the   
   >>>>>>> absence of evidence.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> As an argument for the existence of God, it really doesn't work. It   
   >>>>>>> just leaves open the question of why people believe.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>      If there really was no evidence there would be nothing for them   
   >>>>>>      to believe.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>If you believe that, I'm forced to ask you what the evidence is for   
   >>>>>it?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>Generally, all that's required is to conceive of something to believe,   
   >>>>>and then believe it. Evidence is an optional extra.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>     How do you imagine it happened then? Since none of you can explain   
   >>>>     what sort   
   >>>> of evidence you think there should be, or where it should be, or why   
   >>>> it should be there if God exists, try explaining how the evidence you   
   >>>> say doesn't exist came to be in the first place. Try explaining in   
   >>>> detail how you think the books of the Bible came into existence from   
   >>>> the very start, and why they did. Then go on to explain how the   
   >>>> supposed lies were kept going and most importantly how billions of   
   >>>> people were persuaded to believe the supposed lies.   
   >>>   
   >>>    Huh?   
   >>>   
   >>>    What does it matter how many people believe something?   
   >>   
   >>    Because there has to be reason for them to believe it. That's a starting   
   >>line for you to try to get as "far" as. What if you ever could get as far as   
   the   
   >>starting line? I wonder....LOL...I have to wonder because none of you have   
   >>gotten that "far" yet...LOL... You people are hilarious!!!!   
   >   
   >     Is the earth flat because millions of people   
   >once believe in it?   
      
       Does the Earth not exist because people have had incorrect beliefs about   
   it?   
      
   >     Is reincarnation real because a billion people   
   >in India beleive in it?   
      
       Maybe. Maybe not. If you think you found out then explain how you possibly   
   could have.   
      
   >     Get back to us when you can prove this bizarre   
   >claim about how many people believe in something   
   >making it true.   
      
       If God does exist do atheists disbelieving somehow make him cease to exist?   
   LOL...the very idea is hilarious.   
      
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