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   felix_unger to mur@.not.   
   Re: What if atheists could somehow be pr   
   04 Oct 14 10:38:07   
   
   XPost: alt.atheism, alt.agnosticism, sci.skeptic   
   XPost: alt.christnet   
   From: me@nothere.biz   
      
   On 03-October-2014 8:27 AM, mur@.not. wrote:   
   > On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:57:20 -0500, Mitchell Holman  wrote:   
   > ..   
   >> On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 21:04:26 -0400, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 20:53:54 -0500, Mitchell Holman    
   wrote:   
   >>> .   
   >>>> mur@.not. wrote in news:p5692a51l3q7udvc0ism4ou8r8td1s1cbo@4ax.com:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 18:37:36 +1000, Sylvia Else   
   >>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>> .   
   >>>>>> On 19/09/2014 7:21 AM, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 19:54:14 +1000, Sylvia Else   
   >>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>> .   
   >>>>>>>> On 14/09/2014 1:57 AM, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 23:14:54 -0400, Olrik    
   >>>>>>>>> wrote: .   
   >>>>>>>>>> Le 2014-09-10 14:47, mur@.not. a écrit :   
   >>>>>>>>>>>         Would they be able to post at all?   
   >>>>>>>>>> What lies?   
   >>>>>>>>>        All of them. Of course the biggest is that there's no   
   >>>>>>>>>        evidence for God's   
   >>>>>>>>> existence, when if there really was no evidence there would be   
   >>>>>>>>> nothing for anyone to believe in.   
   >>>>>>>> The alternative possibility is that people believe despite the   
   >>>>>>>> absence of evidence.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> As an argument for the existence of God, it really doesn't work. It   
   >>>>>>>> just leaves open the question of why people believe.   
   >>>>>>>       If there really was no evidence there would be nothing for them   
   >>>>>>>       to believe.   
   >>>>>> If you believe that, I'm forced to ask you what the evidence is for   
   >>>>>> it?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Generally, all that's required is to conceive of something to believe,   
   >>>>>> and then believe it. Evidence is an optional extra.   
   >>>>>      How do you imagine it happened then? Since none of you can explain   
   >>>>>      what sort   
   >>>>> of evidence you think there should be, or where it should be, or why   
   >>>>> it should be there if God exists, try explaining how the evidence you   
   >>>>> say doesn't exist came to be in the first place. Try explaining in   
   >>>>> detail how you think the books of the Bible came into existence from   
   >>>>> the very start, and why they did. Then go on to explain how the   
   >>>>> supposed lies were kept going and most importantly how billions of   
   >>>>> people were persuaded to believe the supposed lies.   
   >>>>     Huh?   
   >>>>   
   >>>>     What does it matter how many people believe something?   
   >>>     Because there has to be reason for them to believe it.   
      
      
   exactly!   
      
   >>>   That's a starting   
   >>> line for you to try to get as "far" as. What if you ever could get as far   
   as the   
   >>> starting line? I wonder....LOL...I have to wonder because none of you have   
   >>> gotten that "far" yet...LOL... You people are hilarious!!!!   
   >>      Is the earth flat because millions of people   
   >> once believe in it?   
   >      Does the Earth not exist because people have had incorrect beliefs   
   about it?   
      
      
   and there is evidence the earth is flat, because it appears to be   
      
   >   
   >>      Is reincarnation real because a billion people   
   >> in India beleive in it?   
   >      Maybe. Maybe not. If you think you found out then explain how you   
   possibly   
   > could have.   
      
   yes   
      
   >   
   >>      Get back to us when you can prove this bizarre   
   >> claim about how many people believe in something   
   >> making it true.   
   >      If God does exist do atheists disbelieving somehow make him cease to   
   exist?   
      
   bingo!   
      
   > LOL...the very idea is hilarious.   
      
      
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