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   felix_unger to mur@.not.   
   Re: What if atheists could somehow be pr   
   04 Oct 14 13:49:04   
   
   XPost: alt.atheism, alt.agnosticism, sci.skeptic   
   XPost: alt.christnet   
   From: me@nothere.biz   
      
   On 29-September-2014 11:04 AM, mur@.not. wrote:   
   > On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 12:23:27 +0200, "Malte Runz"    
   wrote:   
   > ..   
   >> "grabber"  skrev i meddelelsen news:CAEVv.595807$7b1.280829@fx01.am4...   
   >>   
   >> (snip)   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>> And I don't think there's a disagreement between you [felix_unger] and   
   >>> Malte about whether that material represents good grounds in believing in   
   >>> Nessie/BF/UFOs. ...   
   >> I believe there's a huge disagreement. f_u regards any and every kind of   
   >> hearsay as evidence: 'I was abducted and probed!!!' is evidence for UFO's   
   >> having visited Earth. 'Millions of people believe in God and there is this   
   >> book...' is also valid evidence for the existence of God. In my book none of   
   >> that is evidence.   
   >>   
   >>> ... And if there is, that's clearly not what you're interested in arguing   
   >>> about, either.   
   >>>   
   >>> All you're interested in arguing about is whether that stuff meets your   
   >>> particular chosen sense of the word "evidence". ...   
   >> I agree, and I ask myself why he is willing to accept that hearsay about   
   >> Dog-Heads is valid, sensible and reliable evidence for their existence.   
   >>   
   >> I know that 'common sense' very commonly doesn't make any sense, but you   
   >> have to use your brains once in a while and discard the most obvious   
   >> nonsense. Hearsay, ancient books and biased witnesses' testimony is not   
   >> reliable and should never be regarded as useful evidence.   
   >>   
   >> (snip)   
   >      LOL!!! So people you have never met and don't know a damn thing about   
   say   
   > they were abducted by aliens. To begin with we have no strong reason to   
   > disbelieve them not knowing the people or whether or not aliens ever abduct   
   > anyone. But then YOU say no they were not, and then we're supposed to put   
   faith   
   > in that and consider YOU saying "no" as "evidence" against what they said   
   > happened to them...LOL.........and also feel that it's "common sense" to put   
   all   
   > our faith in YOUR claim...LOL... As usual, just describing you peoples'   
   position   
   > is AGAIN HILARIOUS!!!!   
      
   LOL! you make it clear how silly they can be   
      
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