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   mur.@.not. to All   
   Re: What if atheists could somehow be pr   
   05 Oct 14 18:45:31   
   
   XPost: alt.atheism, alt.agnosticism, sci.skeptic   
   XPost: alt.christnet   
      
   On Fri, 3 Oct 2014 13:04:28 +0200, Chicken Runz squawked::   
   .   
   >"Mitchell Holman"  skrev i meddelelsen   
   >news:XnsA3BAD81DE68E6noemailattnet@216.196.121.131...   
   >   
   >(snip)   
   >   
   >>     Are you "ashamed" of your faith that Odin   
   >> doesn't exist? Are you "ashamed" of your faith   
   >> that Vishnu doesn't exist?   
   >>   
   >>     Or is your denial of those deities based   
   >> on something different than no evidence of   
   >> their existence?   
   >   
   >mur is an utter nut-job, and apart from the occational BJ from felix_unger   
   >he is all alone in the world. He has been droning on and on about atheist   
   >being 'ashamed' about their belief that there is no god   
      
       Most of the atheists in these ngs HAVE denied their belief that God doesn't   
   exist. And in fact YOU were the first, and one of the very few, who was not   
   ashamed to confess your own faith:   
      
   "There is no god." - Malte Runz   
      
   "How many times do I need to write: "I believe no gods exist" for you to   
   realize that nobody is ashamed of neither not believing in gods, nor   
   believing gods do not exist?" - Malte Runz   
      
   >or their faith in there being no evidence for God,   
      
       YOU have made it known you have faith in that too:   
      
   "the utter lack of evidence is enough for me to believe that there are no gods.   
   Anywhere, anywhen." - Malte Runz   
      
   though now it appears you're ashamed of it and are now trying to crawl away   
   from   
   yourself.   
      
   >and he insists that atheists must be able   
   >to say what evidence for a god there should be.   
      
       LOL!!! Because they certainly should have some clue what they think they   
   think. It's still amusing that atheists believe there should be some sort of   
   evidence, and not just evidence but...LOL...verifiable evidence of God's   
   existence if he does exist. They don't have any clue at all what they think it   
   should be, or where they think it should be, or why they think it should be   
   there...LOL....but they still think "it" should be somewhere for some reason.   
   This is another example where just describing the position you people are in is   
   hilarious.   
      
   >Ignore him and move on, that's my advice. Let him feel superior if it gives   
   >him a kick.   
      
       It's not that I'm on a superior level. It's that you atheists are on an   
   especially low level to the point of not knowing what you think you think, the   
   evidence issue being an especially clear example. You in particular are a very   
   pathetic case. You have claimed that the following concepts have entered your   
   overly restricted little brain:   
   _________________________________________________________   
   "I don't think God could be a native to Earth." - Malte Runz   
      
   "I don't think any naitive to Earth has any powers, supernatural or just   
   natural, that makes him/her/it appear godlike." - Malte Runz   
      
   "Don't you read what I actually write? God as an alien is NOT a new concept   
   to me. It's roughly 40 years since I first heard of Erich van Dänekin and   
   all that crap. Don't think you're ahead of me in that department." - Malte Runz   
      
   "Aaaaarrrrghhhhh! I have written, at least ten times, in various posts, that   
   I believe it is likely that there are very, very advanced creatures in the   
   universe with abilities that would seem miraculous and god-like to us. The   
   idea is not new to me. Why the hell do you claim that I believe the exact   
   opposite?" - Malte Runz   
   ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ   
   butt you have faith that no such being could be associated with Earth, yet you   
   can't give any respectable explanation as to WHY. It's because I challenge you   
   on such things and YOUR OWN cluelessness defeats when you are challenged   
   resulting in congnitive dissonance in your overly challenged little mind, that   
   you have surrendered and are afraid of responding to me any more. Cognitive   
   dissonance is very uncomfortable, and the only way you have of keeping it down   
   as much as possible is to hide away from things that trigger it like the   
   challenges I present you with.   
       Another example of you not know what you think you think is this problem   
   you   
   kept having and most likely still do have:   
      
   "I must insist that you distinguish between Biblical God and   
   Advanced Alien God." - Malte Runz   
      
   LOL...that one is still amusing. Even after I pointed out for you a number of   
   times that it would be THE SAME BEING, and probably gave you examples involving   
   the sun and moon etc time after time, you never could comprehend. Nor could you   
   explain how YOU think anyone should "distinguish between" God and himself. I   
   believe challenging you on your own horrendous ignorance about that particular   
   aspect was the final straw that caused you to run sobbing away and be afraid to   
   try responding to any more challenges for you to try to explain YOUR SELF.   
      
   >Fuck 'im!   
      
       Another way that I pointed out how you defeated yourself and the challenge   
   for you to try to explain yourself defeated you entirely was in response to   
   this   
   lie:   
      
   "I showed an example of evidence that proves god does not exist." - Malte Runz   
      
   There is NO "evidence that proves god does not exist" and certainly nothing   
   you've shown has or could do so. You lied blatantly when you made the claim,   
   and   
   couldn't even pretend to present the supposed "example" when challenged   
   directly   
   to try doing so. You have proven yourself to be a horrible wuss and a blatant   
   liar, so fuck you!   
      
   >You'll never get him to concede a point even if it is   
   >blatantly obvious to everybody, himself included, that he is wrong. Never,   
   >ever, ever...   
      
       You neglected to mention that I often challenged you to TRY TO explain what   
   you want me to think I'm wrong about. The simple challenge to try to explain   
   "Like what?" has completely defeated you and others of your ilk a number of   
   times and afawk none of you could give examples and provide the evidence that I   
   was wrong. Never, ever, ever... Also you never conceded a point or admitted   
   that   
   you have no idea what you think you're trying to talk about even after you made   
   it clearly obvious that you don't, nor did you ever try to get a clue and rise   
   a   
   bit above your own pitifully clueless position. Never, ever, ever...   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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