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   felix_unger to mur.@.not.   
   Re: What if atheists could somehow be pr   
   06 Oct 14 10:17:22   
   
   XPost: alt.atheism, alt.agnosticism, sci.skeptic   
   XPost: alt.christnet   
   From: me@nothere.biz   
      
   On 06-October-2014 9:53 AM, mur.@.not. wrote:   
   > On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 13:52:04 +1000, felix_unger  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 29-September-2014 11:04 AM, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>> On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 20:53:54 -0500, Mitchell Holman    
   wrote:   
   >>> ..   
   >>>> mur@.not. wrote in news:p5692a51l3q7udvc0ism4ou8r8td1s1cbo@4ax.com:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 18:37:36 +1000, Sylvia Else   
   >>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>> .   
   >>>>>> On 19/09/2014 7:21 AM, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 19:54:14 +1000, Sylvia Else   
   >>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>> .   
   >>>>>>>> On 14/09/2014 1:57 AM, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 23:14:54 -0400, Olrik    
   >>>>>>>>> wrote: .   
   >>>>>>>>>> Le 2014-09-10 14:47, mur@.not. a écrit :   
   >>>>>>>>>>>          Would they be able to post at all?   
   >>>>>>>>>> What lies?   
   >>>>>>>>>         All of them. Of course the biggest is that there's no   
   >>>>>>>>>         evidence for God's   
   >>>>>>>>> existence, when if there really was no evidence there would be   
   >>>>>>>>> nothing for anyone to believe in.   
   >>>>>>>> The alternative possibility is that people believe despite the   
   >>>>>>>> absence of evidence.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> As an argument for the existence of God, it really doesn't work. It   
   >>>>>>>> just leaves open the question of why people believe.   
   >>>>>>>        If there really was no evidence there would be nothing for them   
   >>>>>>>        to believe.   
   >>>>>> If you believe that, I'm forced to ask you what the evidence is for   
   >>>>>> it?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Generally, all that's required is to conceive of something to believe,   
   >>>>>> and then believe it. Evidence is an optional extra.   
   >>>>>       How do you imagine it happened then? Since none of you can explain   
   >>>>>       what sort   
   >>>>> of evidence you think there should be, or where it should be, or why   
   >>>>> it should be there if God exists, try explaining how the evidence you   
   >>>>> say doesn't exist came to be in the first place. Try explaining in   
   >>>>> detail how you think the books of the Bible came into existence from   
   >>>>> the very start, and why they did. Then go on to explain how the   
   >>>>> supposed lies were kept going and most importantly how billions of   
   >>>>> people were persuaded to believe the supposed lies.   
   >>>>      Huh?   
   >>>>   
   >>>>      What does it matter how many people believe something?   
   >>>       Because there has to be reason for them to believe it. That's a   
   starting   
   >>> line for you to try to get as "far" as. What if you ever could get as far   
   as the   
   >>> starting line? I wonder....LOL...I have to wonder because none of you have   
   >>> gotten that "far" yet...LOL... You people are hilarious!!!!   
   >> and the more ppl who believe something, the greater the likelihood they   
   >> have good reason to do so, and the greater the possibility that the   
   >> belief is true   
   >      That's one of the many easy starting lines these morons can't get as   
   "far"   
   > as.   
      
   amazing isn't it!   
      
   >   To try to think of the possibility of God's existence and the possibility   
   of   
   > something we know is bullshit's existence in the same way is so retardedly   
   > stupid that I don't believe a normal person could do it, but these morons act   
   > like they do it all the time. Harry Potter is one of the most childlike and   
   > horrendously stupid examples, though certainly not the only example.   
      
   and it's all because they want to cling to the one idea that God does   
   not exist!..   
      
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