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   On Sun, 05 Oct 2014 20:58:35 -0500, Mitchell Holman  wrote:   
      
   >mur.@.not. wrote in news:lni33a1n49dn5ehoppb60485f17i6vo3rj@4ax.com:   
   >   
   >> On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 13:52:04 +1000, felix_unger    
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>On 29-September-2014 11:04 AM, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>> On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 20:53:54 -0500, Mitchell Holman   
   >>>>  wrote: ..   
   >>>>> mur@.not. wrote in news:p5692a51l3q7udvc0ism4ou8r8td1s1cbo@4ax.com:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 18:37:36 +1000, Sylvia Else   
   >>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>> .   
   >>>>>>> On 19/09/2014 7:21 AM, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 19:54:14 +1000, Sylvia Else   
   >>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> .   
   >>>>>>>>> On 14/09/2014 1:57 AM, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 23:14:54 -0400, Olrik    
   >>>>>>>>>> wrote: .   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Le 2014-09-10 14:47, mur@.not. a écrit :   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>         Would they be able to post at all?   
   >>>>>>>>>>> What lies?   
   >>>>>>>>>>        All of them. Of course the biggest is that there's no   
   >>>>>>>>>>        evidence for God's   
   >>>>>>>>>> existence, when if there really was no evidence there would be   
   >>>>>>>>>> nothing for anyone to believe in.   
   >>>>>>>>> The alternative possibility is that people believe despite the   
   >>>>>>>>> absence of evidence.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> As an argument for the existence of God, it really doesn't   
   >>>>>>>>> work. It just leaves open the question of why people believe.   
   >>>>>>>>       If there really was no evidence there would be nothing for   
   >>>>>>>>       them to believe.   
   >>>>>>> If you believe that, I'm forced to ask you what the evidence is   
   >>>>>>> for it?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Generally, all that's required is to conceive of something to   
   >>>>>>> believe, and then believe it. Evidence is an optional extra.   
   >>>>>>      How do you imagine it happened then? Since none of you can   
   >>>>>>      explain what sort   
   >>>>>> of evidence you think there should be, or where it should be, or   
   >>>>>> why it should be there if God exists, try explaining how the   
   >>>>>> evidence you say doesn't exist came to be in the first place. Try   
   >>>>>> explaining in detail how you think the books of the Bible came   
   >>>>>> into existence from the very start, and why they did. Then go on   
   >>>>>> to explain how the supposed lies were kept going and most   
   >>>>>> importantly how billions of people were persuaded to believe the   
   >>>>>> supposed lies.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>     Huh?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>     What does it matter how many people believe something?   
   >>>>      Because there has to be reason for them to believe it. That's a   
   >>>>      starting   
   >>>> line for you to try to get as "far" as. What if you ever could get   
   >>>> as far as the starting line? I wonder....LOL...I have to wonder   
   >>>> because none of you have gotten that "far" yet...LOL... You people   
   >>>> are hilarious!!!!   
   >>>   
   >>>and the more ppl who believe something, the greater the likelihood   
   >>>they have good reason to do so, and the greater the possibility that   
   >>>the belief is true   
   >>   
   >>     That's one of the many easy starting lines these morons can't get   
   >>     as "far"   
   >> as. To try to think of the possibility of God's existence and the   
   >> possibility of something we know is bullshit's existence in the same   
   >> way is so retardedly stupid that I don't believe a normal person could   
   >> do it, but these morons act like they do it all the time.   
   >   
   >   
   >     What makes "the possibility of god's existence" any   
   >different from the "possibility Shiva's existence" or the   
   >"possibility of Odin's existence"   
      
       If God does exist there's no reason to think people don't have differing   
   beliefs about him or refer to him in different ways. To think they could not or   
   even that they don't would be idiotic.   
      
   >or the "possibility of   
   >Santa's existence"?   
      
       If you can figure that out for yourself then explain it so we can see that   
   you're not as horribly mentally restricted as a person would have to be if they   
   could not. If you honestly can't then admit the fact and I'll explain some of   
   it   
   for you even though if you can't figure it out on your own you'll probably   
   never   
   be able to comprehend even after someone does explain it for you.   
      
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