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   On Mon, 06 Oct 2014 15:59:20 +1100, felix_unger  wrote:   
      
   >On 06-October-2014 9:45 AM, mur.@.not. wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Fri, 3 Oct 2014 13:04:28 +0200, Chicken Runz squawked::   
   >> ..   
   >>> "Mitchell Holman"  skrev i meddelelsen   
   >>> news:XnsA3BAD81DE68E6noemailattnet@216.196.121.131...   
   >>>   
   >>> (snip)   
   >>>   
   >>>>      Are you "ashamed" of your faith that Odin   
   >>>> doesn't exist? Are you "ashamed" of your faith   
   >>>> that Vishnu doesn't exist?   
   >>>>   
   >>>>      Or is your denial of those deities based   
   >>>> on something different than no evidence of   
   >>>> their existence?   
   >>> mur is an utter nut-job, and apart from the occational BJ from felix_unger   
   >>> he is all alone in the world.   
   >   
   >he's not. there are far more theists and agnostics in the world than   
   >atheists   
      
       That's one of the starting lines their tiny minds can't get as "far" as.   
      
   >>> He has been droning on and on about atheist   
   >>> being 'ashamed' about their belief that there is no god   
   >   
   >many are, because getting them to admit to it is like pulling teeth   
      
       Interestingly, though pathetically as well, that's another one.   
      
   >>      Most of the atheists in these ngs HAVE denied their belief that God   
   doesn't   
   >> exist. And in fact YOU were the first, and one of the very few, who was not   
   >> ashamed to confess your own faith:   
   >>   
   >> "There is no god." - Malte Runz   
   >>   
   >> "How many times do I need to write: "I believe no gods exist" for you to   
   >> realize that nobody is ashamed of neither not believing in gods, nor   
   >> believing gods do not exist?" - Malte Runz   
   >>   
   >>> or their faith in there being no evidence for God,   
   >>      YOU have made it known you have faith in that too:   
   >>   
   >> "the utter lack of evidence is enough for me to believe that there are no   
   gods.   
   >> Anywhere, anywhen." - Malte Runz   
   >>   
   >> though now it appears you're ashamed of it and are now trying to crawl away   
   from   
   >> yourself.   
   >>   
   >>> and he insists that atheists must be able   
   >>> to say what evidence for a god there should be.   
   >>      LOL!!! Because they certainly should have some clue what they think   
   they   
   >> think.   
   >   
   >they should at least be able to say what it is they don't believe in   
      
       Or what they think they would believe, since they continually demand it.   
   But   
   no, none of them has the slightest idea. We've seen that no one can imagine   
   what   
   they want people to think they think they're trying to talk about, nor can   
   anyone even pretend that they can.   
      
   >>   It's still amusing that atheists believe there should be some sort of   
   >> evidence, and not just evidence but...LOL...verifiable evidence of God's   
   >> existence if he does exist. They don't have any clue at all what they think   
   it   
   >> should be, or where they think it should be, or why they think it should be   
   >> there...LOL....but they still think "it" should be somewhere for some   
   reason.   
   >> This is another example where just describing the position you people are   
   in is   
   >> hilarious.   
   >>   
   >>> Ignore him and move on, that's my advice. Let him feel superior if it gives   
   >>> him a kick.   
   >>      It's not that I'm on a superior level. It's that you atheists are on an   
   >> especially low level   
   >   
   >sub-normal.. :)   
      
       The are necessarily on the lowest level in the world since nothing could be   
   lower. That's another very obvious and very basic starting line they can't get   
   as far as. If any of them honestly could get that far, do you think they'd try   
   to move on to another position?   
      
   >> to the point of not knowing what you think you think, the   
   >> evidence issue being an especially clear example. You in particular are a   
   very   
   >> pathetic case. You have claimed that the following concepts have entered   
   your   
   >> overly restricted little brain:   
   >> _________________________________________________________   
   >> "I don't think God could be a native to Earth." - Malte Runz   
   >>   
   >> "I don't think any naitive to Earth has any powers, supernatural or just   
   >> natural, that makes him/her/it appear godlike." - Malte Runz   
   >>   
   >> "Don't you read what I actually write? God as an alien is NOT a new concept   
   >> to me. It's roughly 40 years since I first heard of Erich van Dänekin and   
   >> all that crap. Don't think you're ahead of me in that department." - Malte   
   Runz   
   >>   
   >> "Aaaaarrrrghhhhh! I have written, at least ten times, in various posts, that   
   >> I believe it is likely that there are very, very advanced creatures in the   
   >> universe with abilities that would seem miraculous and god-like to us. The   
   >> idea is not new to me. Why the hell do you claim that I believe the exact   
   >> opposite?" - Malte Runz   
   >> ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯   
   >> butt you have faith that no such being could be associated with Earth, yet   
   you   
   >> can't give any respectable explanation as to WHY. It's because I challenge   
   you   
   >> on such things and YOUR OWN cluelessness defeats when you are challenged   
   >> resulting in congnitive dissonance in your overly challenged little mind,   
   that   
   >> you have surrendered and are afraid of responding to me any more. Cognitive   
   >> dissonance is very uncomfortable, and the only way you have of keeping it   
   down   
   >> as much as possible is to hide away from things that trigger it like the   
   >> challenges I present you with.   
   >>      Another example of you not know what you think you think is this   
   problem you   
   >> kept having and most likely still do have:   
   >>   
   >> "I must insist that you distinguish between Biblical God and   
   >> Advanced Alien God." - Malte Runz   
   >>   
   >> LOL...that one is still amusing. Even after I pointed out for you a number   
   of   
   >> times that it would be THE SAME BEING, and probably gave you examples   
   involving   
   >> the sun and moon etc time after time, you never could comprehend. Nor could   
   you   
   >> explain how YOU think anyone should "distinguish between" God and himself. I   
   >> believe challenging you on your own horrendous ignorance about that   
   particular   
   >> aspect was the final straw that caused you to run sobbing away and be   
   afraid to   
   >> try responding to any more challenges for you to try to explain YOUR SELF.   
   >>   
   >>> Fuck 'im!   
   >   
   >what a compelling argument, lol!   
      
       He resents me challenging him to try to explaim himself, and ran away and   
   now hides behind his kill filter because he's so terribly afraid of that same   
   challenge. That's what people do in his position, as I pointed out regarding   
   Wuss Lee's fear of you.   
      
   >>      Another way that I pointed out how you defeated yourself and the   
   challenge   
   >> for you to try to explain yourself defeated you entirely was in response to   
   this   
   >> lie:   
   >>   
   >> "I showed an example of evidence that proves god does not exist." - Malte   
   Runz   
   >>   
   >> There is NO "evidence that proves god does not exist" and certainly nothing   
   >> you've shown has or could do so. You lied blatantly when you made the   
   claim, and   
      
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