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   On 09-October-2014 11:25 AM, mur.@.not. wrote:   
   > On Mon, 06 Oct 2014 10:17:22 +1100, felix_unger wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 06-October-2014 9:53 AM, mur.@.not. wrote:   
   >>> On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 13:52:04 +1000, felix_unger wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 29-September-2014 11:04 AM, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>> On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 20:53:54 -0500, Mitchell Holman    
   wrote:   
   >>>>> ..   
   >>>>>> mur@.not. wrote in news:p5692a51l3q7udvc0ism4ou8r8td1s1cbo@4ax.com:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 18:37:36 +1000, Sylvia Else   
   >>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>> .   
   >>>>>>>> On 19/09/2014 7:21 AM, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 19:54:14 +1000, Sylvia Else   
   >>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> .   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 14/09/2014 1:57 AM, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 23:14:54 -0400, Olrik    
   >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: .   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Le 2014-09-10 14:47, mur@.not. a écrit :   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would they be able to post at all?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> What lies?   
   >>>>>>>>>>> All of them. Of course the biggest is that there's no   
   >>>>>>>>>>> evidence for God's   
   >>>>>>>>>>> existence, when if there really was no evidence there would be   
   >>>>>>>>>>> nothing for anyone to believe in.   
   >>>>>>>>>> The alternative possibility is that people believe despite the   
   >>>>>>>>>> absence of evidence.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> As an argument for the existence of God, it really doesn't work. It   
   >>>>>>>>>> just leaves open the question of why people believe.   
   >>>>>>>>> If there really was no evidence there would be nothing for   
   them   
   >>>>>>>>> to believe.   
   >>>>>>>> If you believe that, I'm forced to ask you what the evidence is for   
   >>>>>>>> it?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Generally, all that's required is to conceive of something to believe,   
   >>>>>>>> and then believe it. Evidence is an optional extra.   
   >>>>>>> How do you imagine it happened then? Since none of you can   
   explain   
   >>>>>>> what sort   
   >>>>>>> of evidence you think there should be, or where it should be, or why   
   >>>>>>> it should be there if God exists, try explaining how the evidence you   
   >>>>>>> say doesn't exist came to be in the first place. Try explaining in   
   >>>>>>> detail how you think the books of the Bible came into existence from   
   >>>>>>> the very start, and why they did. Then go on to explain how the   
   >>>>>>> supposed lies were kept going and most importantly how billions of   
   >>>>>>> people were persuaded to believe the supposed lies.   
   >>>>>> Huh?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> What does it matter how many people believe something?   
   >>>>> Because there has to be reason for them to believe it. That's a   
   starting   
   >>>>> line for you to try to get as "far" as. What if you ever could get as   
   far as the   
   >>>>> starting line? I wonder....LOL...I have to wonder because none of you   
   have   
   >>>>> gotten that "far" yet...LOL... You people are hilarious!!!!   
   >>>> and the more ppl who believe something, the greater the likelihood they   
   >>>> have good reason to do so, and the greater the possibility that the   
   >>>> belief is true   
   >>> That's one of the many easy starting lines these morons can't get as   
   "far"   
   >>> as.   
   >> amazing isn't it!   
   > It sure is, and evidence.....   
   >   
   >>> To try to think of the possibility of God's existence and the   
   possibility of   
   >>> something we know is bullshit's existence in the same way is so retardedly   
   >>> stupid that I don't believe a normal person could do it, but these morons   
   act   
   >>> like they do it all the time. Harry Potter is one of the most childlike and   
   >>> horrendously stupid examples, though certainly not the only example.   
   >> and it's all because they want to cling to the one idea that God does   
   >> not exist!..   
   > Yes, and deny it as they do so. They aren't fooling us, but do you   
   think any   
   > of them are really stupid enough that they're somehow honestly fooling   
   > themselves?   
      
   I think because they keep telling themselves the same thing over and   
   over, they eventually begin to believe it's a fact. like   
   expensive_dinners 'no evidence' mantra :)   
      
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