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   On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 14:22:31 +1100, felix_unger  wrote:   
   .   
   >On 09-October-2014 11:22 AM, mur.@.not. wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Mon, 06 Oct 2014 15:59:20 +1100, felix_unger  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 06-October-2014 9:45 AM, mur.@.not. wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On Fri, 3 Oct 2014 13:04:28 +0200, Chicken Runz squawked::   
   >>>> ..   
   >>>>> "Mitchell Holman"  skrev i meddelelsen   
   >>>>> news:XnsA3BAD81DE68E6noemailattnet@216.196.121.131...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> (snip)   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>       Are you "ashamed" of your faith that Odin   
   >>>>>> doesn't exist? Are you "ashamed" of your faith   
   >>>>>> that Vishnu doesn't exist?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>       Or is your denial of those deities based   
   >>>>>> on something different than no evidence of   
   >>>>>> their existence?   
   >>>>> mur is an utter nut-job, and apart from the occational BJ from   
   felix_unger   
   >>>>> he is all alone in the world.   
   >>> he's not. there are far more theists and agnostics in the world than   
   >>> atheists   
   >>      That's one of the starting lines their tiny minds can't get as "far"   
   as.   
   >>   
   >>>>> He has been droning on and on about atheist   
   >>>>> being 'ashamed' about their belief that there is no god   
   >>> many are, because getting them to admit to it is like pulling teeth   
   >>      Interestingly, though pathetically as well, that's another one.   
   >>   
   >>>>       Most of the atheists in these ngs HAVE denied their belief that God   
   doesn't   
   >>>> exist. And in fact YOU were the first, and one of the very few, who was   
   not   
   >>>> ashamed to confess your own faith:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> "There is no god." - Malte Runz   
   >>>>   
   >>>> "How many times do I need to write: "I believe no gods exist" for you to   
   >>>> realize that nobody is ashamed of neither not believing in gods, nor   
   >>>> believing gods do not exist?" - Malte Runz   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> or their faith in there being no evidence for God,   
   >>>>       YOU have made it known you have faith in that too:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> "the utter lack of evidence is enough for me to believe that there are no   
   gods.   
   >>>> Anywhere, anywhen." - Malte Runz   
   >>>>   
   >>>> though now it appears you're ashamed of it and are now trying to crawl   
   away from   
   >>>> yourself.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> and he insists that atheists must be able   
   >>>>> to say what evidence for a god there should be.   
   >>>>       LOL!!! Because they certainly should have some clue what they think   
   they   
   >>>> think.   
   >>> they should at least be able to say what it is they don't believe in   
   >>      Or what they think they would believe, since they continually demand   
   it. But   
   >> no, none of them has the slightest idea. We've seen that no one can imagine   
   what   
   >> they want people to think they think they're trying to talk about, nor can   
   >> anyone even pretend that they can.   
   >>   
   >>>>    It's still amusing that atheists believe there should be some sort of   
   >>>> evidence, and not just evidence but...LOL...verifiable evidence of God's   
   >>>> existence if he does exist. They don't have any clue at all what they   
   think it   
   >>>> should be, or where they think it should be, or why they think it should   
   be   
   >>>> there...LOL....but they still think "it" should be somewhere for some   
   reason.   
   >>>> This is another example where just describing the position you people are   
   in is   
   >>>> hilarious.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Ignore him and move on, that's my advice. Let him feel superior if it   
   gives   
   >>>>> him a kick.   
   >>>>       It's not that I'm on a superior level. It's that you atheists are   
   on an   
   >>>> especially low level   
   >>> sub-normal.. :)   
   >>      The are necessarily on the lowest level in the world since nothing   
   could be   
   >> lower. That's another very obvious and very basic starting line they can't   
   get   
   >> as far as. If any of them honestly could get that far, do you think they'd   
   try   
   >> to move on to another position?   
   >   
   >I think that having adopted an atheist position they are unlikely to   
   >move, although it's not impossible. If they had kept an open mind, they   
   >would not have become atheists.   
      
       Good point. The basic starting lines they can't get as "far" as are so   
   obvious and easy to comprehend, it seems that if a person can't get that "far"   
   on their own or at least after someone has pointed things out for them, they'll   
   probably never be able to get there at all.   
      
   >>>> to the point of not knowing what you think you think, the   
   >>>> evidence issue being an especially clear example. You in particular are a   
   very   
   >>>> pathetic case. You have claimed that the following concepts have entered   
   your   
   >>>> overly restricted little brain:   
   >>>> _________________________________________________________   
   >>>> "I don't think God could be a native to Earth." - Malte Runz   
   >>>>   
   >>>> "I don't think any naitive to Earth has any powers, supernatural or just   
   >>>> natural, that makes him/her/it appear godlike." - Malte Runz   
   >>>>   
   >>>> "Don't you read what I actually write? God as an alien is NOT a new   
   concept   
   >>>> to me. It's roughly 40 years since I first heard of Erich van Dänekin and   
   >>>> all that crap. Don't think you're ahead of me in that department." -   
   Malte Runz   
   >>>>   
   >>>> "Aaaaarrrrghhhhh! I have written, at least ten times, in various posts,   
   that   
   >>>> I believe it is likely that there are very, very advanced creatures in the   
   >>>> universe with abilities that would seem miraculous and god-like to us. The   
   >>>> idea is not new to me. Why the hell do you claim that I believe the exact   
   >>>> opposite?" - Malte Runz   
   >>>> ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯   
   >>>> butt you have faith that no such being could be associated with Earth,   
   yet you   
   >>>> can't give any respectable explanation as to WHY. It's because I   
   challenge you   
   >>>> on such things and YOUR OWN cluelessness defeats when you are challenged   
   >>>> resulting in congnitive dissonance in your overly challenged little mind,   
   that   
   >>>> you have surrendered and are afraid of responding to me any more.   
   Cognitive   
   >>>> dissonance is very uncomfortable, and the only way you have of keeping it   
   down   
   >>>> as much as possible is to hide away from things that trigger it like the   
   >>>> challenges I present you with.   
   >>>>       Another example of you not know what you think you think is this   
   problem you   
   >>>> kept having and most likely still do have:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> "I must insist that you distinguish between Biblical God and   
   >>>> Advanced Alien God." - Malte Runz   
   >>>>   
   >>>> LOL...that one is still amusing. Even after I pointed out for you a   
   number of   
   >>>> times that it would be THE SAME BEING, and probably gave you examples   
   involving   
   >>>> the sun and moon etc time after time, you never could comprehend. Nor   
   could you   
   >>>> explain how YOU think anyone should "distinguish between" God and   
   himself. I   
   >>>> believe challenging you on your own horrendous ignorance about that   
   particular   
   >>>> aspect was the final straw that caused you to run sobbing away and be   
   afraid to   
      
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