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   Sylvia Else to Michael McLean   
   Re: HOPE but not faith   
   08 Apr 23 13:26:47   
   
   XPost: alt.atheism, talk.atheism, alt.agnosticism   
   XPost: sci.skeptic, alt.magick   
   From: sylvia@email.invalid   
      
   On 08-Apr-23 9:57 am, Michael McLean wrote:   
   > On 7/04/2023 10:33 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:   
   >> On 29-Mar-23 4:16 pm, David Dalton wrote:   
   >>> Right now I don’t have faith but do have hope that my global new   
   >>> age onset magickal workings will have effect.   
   >>   
   >> Having some expectation that something will happen with no reasonable   
   >> basis for thinking it will is neither hope, nor faith. It's delusion.   
   >>   
   >> Sylvia.   
   >   
   > No, it's life, fool atheist.   
   >   
   > Life does not exist according YOUR mind's reasonable basis, Ms Glorious   
   > Mind.   
   >   
   > The atheist is always a self-worshiper!  My questions are, why and who   
   > anointed them the self-glory?   
   >   
   > One guess.   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   > Michael   
   >   
      
   I don't really see how you reach the "atheist" conclusion.   
      
   Religion mostly seems to involve believing that something, God, exists,   
   without supporting evidence. There does not appear to be an expectation   
   that something will happen as a consequence. Indeed, much of the support   
   for religious belief seems to form around explaining the absence of   
   things happening, such as protecting churches from earthquakes, despite   
   the supposed existence of God.   
      
   OK, NOW you can probably reasonably conclude that I'm an atheist.   
      
   Sylvia.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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