XPost: alt.atheism, talk.atheism, alt.agnosticism   
   XPost: sci.skeptic, alt.magick   
   From: michaelmclean2021@outlook.com   
      
   On 8/04/2023 1:26 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:   
   > On 08-Apr-23 9:57 am, Michael McLean wrote:   
   >> On 7/04/2023 10:33 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:   
   >>> On 29-Mar-23 4:16 pm, David Dalton wrote:   
   >>>> Right now I don’t have faith but do have hope that my global new   
   >>>> age onset magickal workings will have effect.   
   >>>   
   >>> Having some expectation that something will happen with no reasonable   
   >>> basis for thinking it will is neither hope, nor faith. It's delusion.   
   >>>   
   >>> Sylvia.   
   >>   
   >> No, it's life, fool atheist.   
   >>   
   >> Life does not exist according YOUR mind's reasonable basis, Ms   
   >> Glorious Mind.   
   >>   
   >> The atheist is always a self-worshiper!  My questions are, why and who   
   >> anointed them the self-glory?   
   >>   
   >> One guess.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Michael   
   >>   
   >   
   > I don't really see how you reach the "atheist" conclusion.   
   >   
   > Religion mostly seems to involve believing that something, God, exists,   
   > without supporting evidence.   
      
   Without your "supporting evidence", not ours.  That was the point, Ms   
   self-created know-it-all.  Your "reasonable basis" is like a 2 second   
   look at the ocean and thinking you know everything about the ocean.   
      
   There are billions of people who can't get enough of God, living with   
   supporting evidence in their lives, Ms Awesome.  Yes, they are all   
   fools, but you are obviously not, because there is nothing greater than   
   you and your atheist self-created thoughts.  :-).   
      
   > There does not appear to be an expectation   
   > that something will happen as a consequence.   
      
   Everything is the consequence of something.  No thing can create itself.   
     It needs a cause.  Thus eternal God or nothing would be here. No thing   
   can "be" before it is in order to bring itself into "being."   
      
   Too much for your super atheist brain?   
      
   Now, where is your argument as an atheist??  What? It "seems", or "there   
   does not appear," or I have my "reasonable" glorious "basis?"  :-).   
   Great supporting evidence and terrific hypocrisy!   
      
   You walk through life no different to a believer.  The only difference   
   being is that you believe and put faith in yourself as your own creator;   
   the impossible!  That is what it boils down to, sister!   
      
      
   > Indeed, much of the support   
   > for religious belief seems to form around explaining the absence of   
   > things happening, such as protecting churches from earthquakes, despite   
   > the supposed existence of God.   
      
   God has nothing to do with the religions of men, atheist and religious   
   nuts alike.   
      
   He just is, and we run around trying to invent our existence like fools.   
     If you don't know Him, that is your problem.  Everyone has the   
   opportunity to step down from their self-wonderful ego throne and find   
   God.  You don't want to?  Fine!  You don't have to!   
      
   That is what free will is.   
      
      
   > OK, NOW you can probably reasonably conclude that I'm an atheist.   
   >   
   > Sylvia.   
      
   It stuck out like dog's ball from the start with the typical huge   
   atheist ego of self-knowledge and self-worship, Sylia   
   what-Else-is-there-but-me-thoughts!   
      
      
      
      
      
   Michael   
      
   --   
   Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.   
      
   Rom 5:8  But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were   
   YET sinners, Christ died for us.   
      
   Jeremiah 10:23  O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it   
   is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.   
      
   "To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."   
      
   "If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."   
      
   "What makes the bible the truth?  The resonance of God."   
      
   "All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving   
   God with all their heart, soul and mind.  An abomination.  Therefore,   
   sin is not what you do, it is what you are."   
      
   "Compromise will condemn you."   
      
   "There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."   
      
   "My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."   
      
   "You can't learn righteousness.  Haven't you had enough time already to   
   know that?"   
      
   "The way of truth is the testimony of life."   
      
   "I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall   
   where God intends."   
      
   "Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."   
      
   "You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all   
   live, by faith."   
      
   "It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."   
      
   "Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look   
   ahead."   
      
   "You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."   
      
   "Priority is everything."   
      
   "The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."   
      
   "There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander   
   it or to place it where it truly belongs."   
      
   "An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."   
      
   "Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to   
   an ignorant straw man."   
      
   "Wait, rest, be still, and know."   
      
   "No man can wash his own hands!!!"   
      
   "I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,   
   and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."   
      
   The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the   
   obvious).  So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"   
      
   "The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."   
      
   "Man is not the centre of being."   
      
   "Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."   
      
   "And then the Lord said, "I see everything."   
      
   "Man has no greater idol than his own will."   
      
   "Where is God hiding? He isn't."   
      
   "If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."   
      
   "You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's   
   willingness to believe."   
      
   "Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,   
   and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."   
      
   "The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always   
   full of hope."   
      
   "The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass   
   through it so that you could play God."   
      
   "A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."   
      
   "The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.   
   Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.   
   Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection   
   in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb   
      
   "No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven.  Such   
   is the love of God."   
      
   "The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit   
   pretending he is the meaning of life."   
      
   "Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is   
   still according to my power," says the Lord.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)