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   From: nomail@invalid.invalid   
      
   In article ,   
   twang@the.noodle says...   
   >   
   > Michael McLean wrote:   
   > > On 10/04/2023 7:03 am, El Kabong wrote:   
   > > > Skeeter wrote:   
   > > >> twang@the.noodle says...   
   > > >>> Skeeter wrote:   
   > > >>>> twang@the.noodle says...   
   > > >>>>> Skeeter wrote:   
   > > >>>>>> twang@the.noodle says...   
   > > >>>>>>> Skeeter wrote:   
   > > >>>>>>>> twang@the.noodle says...   
   > > >>>>>>>>> Skeeter wrote:   
   > > >>>>>>>>>> In article , sy   
   via@email.invalid says...   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>> On 08-Apr-23 2:52 pm, Michael McLean wrote:   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Everything is the consequence of something.  No thing can   
   create itself.   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>>    It needs a cause.  Thus eternal God or nothing would be   
   here. No thing   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>> can "be" before it is in order to bring itself into "being."   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>> So, God can be eternal, but nothing else can, because.....?   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>> Sylvia.   
   > > >>>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>>> He created it?   
   > > >>>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>>> Could God create an eternal universe if he wanted to?   
   > > >>>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>>> It wouldn't be eternal if it was created.   
   > > >>>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>> So you mean no, God isn't powerful enough to create an   
   > > >>>>>>> eternal universe.   
   > > >>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>   
   > > >>>>>> Twist it around as usual.   
   > > >>>>>   
   > > >>>>> You said it, not me.   
   > > >>>>>   
   > > >>>>>>   If it was created it cannot be eternal.   
   > > >>>>>   
   > > >>>>> Of course it can.  Any omnipotent god can create   
   > > >>>>> something that lasts forever.  If he can't, he's not   
   > > >>>>> omnipotent and he needs to go back to god school.   
   > > >>>>   
   > > >>>> If it was created it had a beginning.   
   > > >>>   
   > > >>> So?   
   > > >>   
   > > >> Spnak!   
   > > >   
   > > > You are running away again, skeetzoid.   
   > >   
   > > Do you see how easy Skeeter kicks your ass? :-).   
   >   
   > I see how both of you do a lot of talking.   
   > It's your way of diving into the weeds when   
   > you can't hold your own.   
   >   
   > Why didn't you invent an omnipotent god?   
   >   
   If it has a beginning it can't be eternal. What is so hard about that?   
      
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