On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 9:10:52 AM UTC-5, NUR wrote:   
   > On Wednesday, 22 January 2020 23:20:04 UTC+10, denisgi...@gmail.com  wrote:   
   > > Nima wrote:   
   > > > The Point of the Bayan advised against   
   > > > the study of the sort of straitjacketed   
   > > > Aristotelian system of antiquated logic   
   > > > prevalent in the hawza in disciplines   
   > > > such as fiqh as a support of faith,   
   > > > absolutely! This logic of the Usuli   
   > > > mujtahids (and their Sunni counterparts)   
   > > > -- which the Akhbaris also reject -- is   
   > > > the same one that proposes asinine   
   > > > propositions speculating about the tahara   
   > > > status of hermaphrodites and whether   
   > > > it is halaal to have sex with animals   
   > > > or not and/or whether the halfway   
   > > > penetration of infants constitutes   
   > > > actual sex.   
   > >   
   > > Amazing that you went there. Is that what   
   > > you think the study of logic is about?   
   >   
   > You never studied logic, Gironovsky,   
      
   I prefer Gaslightonovsky, and, actually, formal logic was the focus of my   
   studies as an undergrad.   
      
   Nima wrote:   
   > You were trained in professional gaslighting.   
      
   As has been explained to you before, just because something causes you to   
   question your own sanity, that doesn't mean it therefore must be gaslighting.   
   Sometimes the problem really is with your own sanity.   
      
   Nima wrote:   
   > I was referring you to what the Bab was   
   > actually talking about   
      
   Here's the thing: prohibiting people from trying to make room for bestiality   
   or child rape need not entail a prohibition on logic. It seems, therefore,   
   that your initial objection bordered on a gross misrepresentation of what   
   logic is.   
      
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