Greetings Matt   
      
   On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 4:04:08 AM UTC-5, eku...@yahoo.com wrote:   
   > well, you think you're a slick suave motherfucker, eh?   
      
   I wouldn't put it quite that way, but I guess I appreciate the few subtle   
   compliments which were mixed in with your less kind comments. So, at the very   
   least, thank you for that.   
      
   Matt wrote:   
   > Maybe you have more coherent presentation method   
   > than you're apparent buddy Nate,  but if you    
   > think you can fool me so easily,  you're quite   
   > the pendejo.   
      
   No one is trying to fool you, and there is no need for either of us to declare   
   "you cannot fool me". I would ask that we simply have a cordial correspondence   
   on the facts and/or our points of disagreement.   
      
   Matt wrote:   
   > You had asked previously, and I forgot to follow   
   > in there midst of your other bullshit, about pics   
   > of me and Wahid.  They're on my timeline,  and    
   > even if Wahid has blocked you,  looks like you    
   > and associates know how to create an alternate   
   > profiles.   
      
   While there are people who occasionally share things Nima has written, I do   
   not have any alternative account from which I can view his wall or his posts.   
   It would be exceedingly difficult for me to try to go looking for pictures of   
   the two of you. If you'   
   re still offering, however, and you come across such pictures, feel free to   
   share a link. Otherwise, no worries.   
      
   Matt wrote:   
   > If you're concerned about a child, well,   
   > wouldn't trying to establish contact with   
   > someone who's been there who could give   
   > testimony to confirm or dispel you fears   
   > be in order. With me, you've had that   
   > opportunity for over half a year.     
      
   First of all, before you began corresponding with me, I had no idea who you   
   were, much less that you have met Nima in person. So there is no way I could   
   have reached out to you.   
      
   Second, I never said I was majorly concerned about Nima's child. As I wrote   
   previously, it is my understanding that very wonderful, responsible members of   
   Nima's family are helping with providing her, and so I assume she's in good   
   hands with those people.   
    Even before Nima left Germany, we were hearing he was going to go back to   
   Australia, in part due to his more successful family being concerned about   
   that child and thus willing to offer help. So I was not majorly concerned   
   about the child. We only    
   discussed the child in this thread because you brought her up, accusing us of   
   somehow trying to harm her (which is grossly inaccurate).   
      
   Matt wrote:   
   > The one thing you're actually not half bad   
   > at, not that I approve, on the manipulative   
   > level, is that your gaslighting attempts    
   > are subtle...   
      
   I was not trying to manipulate you. However, as was noted previously, at the   
   very least, I appreciate the compliment embedded within the less favorable   
   commentary. Thank you, again.   
      
   Matt wrote:   
   > You could have simply asked,  "Matt, did   
   > you see Wahid use psychedelics,  or other   
   > drugs?" My answer is no I didn't.    
      
   But that was not the question I asked. I do not believe you have spent   
   considerable time with the couple (I don't even know if ever even met his   
   wife, or if you only met Nima after she passed?), and therefore I do not think   
   what is possible (or what you    
   think is likely) is limited to only that which you saw. What I asked you was:   
   what would you say is the likelihood that Nima was giving some of those same   
   [psychedelic] substances to his wife? While you did not answer that directly,   
   I wonder if we might    
   consider the following to be an indirect answer...   
      
   Matt wrote:   
   > while drugs can cause some fucked up shit,   
   > I never heard of psychedelics causing    
   > cardiac arrest...    
      
   So, just to be clear, can I understand the above to mean that you do consider   
   it likely that Nima gave some of the same substances to his wife, but you wish   
   to make clear that you do not see those substances as having any relevance to   
   her passing?   
      
   [By the way, I wish to repeat that Nima is more than welcome to comment on his   
   wife's level of consumption of the substances he imbibed.]   
      
   Matt wrote:   
   > Let's hypothetically say for just a sec that   
   > Wahid is kinda crazy... so... […]   
   > But here you are trying to claim Wahid's    
   > craziness,  say your concerned about his    
   > daughter,  yet let your associate post    
   > something directed at an allegedly crazy    
   > person,  that could trigger them if said   
   > craziness had validity to it, possibly    
   > triggering them in the presence of said   
   > child... and all you respond with is    
   > 'take it down before he gets screenshots'   
      
   Much of what Nate and I post are satirizations of what Nima claims about us   
   (e.g. that we are Baha'is or employed by Baha'is, that we have ties to Israel,   
   that we are Duginists, that we work for Black Cube, et cetera). However, if   
   Nima harmed his child    
   in response to our poking fun at his crazy claims about us, I don't think we   
   would bear culpability for his crime. I can't imagine a person being   
   exculpated of a crime against a child, simply by saying he libeled some   
   strangers and they made fun of his    
   libel. On a side note, while I recognize your scenario was purely   
   hypothetical, I nonetheless feel the need to point out that such a   
   hypothetical scenario depicts Nima as far more dangerous and deranged than   
   anything we have written.   
      
   As for the the "quick delete this" comment, that is an old joke, stretching   
   back to 2016. The first time Nate posted the "7izbul-Baha" flag, knowing   
   Nima's inability to discern satire, and unironically post screen shots of   
   obvious satire, I wrote that    
   comment ("quick, delete this before Nima takes a screen shot"). Hilariously,   
   Nima posted the screen shot, as expected, with my comment therein, and he   
   wrote "too late Giron!". Ever since then, I have occasionally cracked the same   
   joke.    
      
   Matt wrote:   
   > in the real world people don't have to forgive you.    
      
   Uh, with all due respect, Matt, there may have been a misunderstanding, as I   
   am certainly not asking Nima to forgive me. I might have offered apologies   
   prior to July of 2016, back when I thought his hysteria was a mere   
   overreaction, but since discovering    
   how readily he engages in libel, I have not felt any need to apologize for   
   anything much less to ask for forgiveness. Just to be clear, Nima is the one   
   who is firmly in the wrong between us. To think I would ask a man who   
   regularly accuses me of murder    
   and pedophilia, among other things, to forgive me, is to strain credulity.   
      
   Matt wrote:   
   > Sometimes you gotta live with your   
      
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