From: adam.ozturk1990@gmail.com   
      
   I concur with Denis.   
      
   When one has not seen Wahid's ugly side that he carefully hides from all   
   except those he directs it to he probably seems like a near saint and stand up   
   guy. Knowing human nature, he nay well be a stand up guy UNTIL he's not. Then   
   he is manically and    
   furiously more vicious than anyone I've ever seen in my life. That's MY Wahid.    
      
   This is NOT a both sides are wrong issue. This is also NOT a Wahid is innocent   
   issue. Wahid is very much the instigator and aggressor. He is used to being   
   isolated and insulated from the consequences of his actions and, like many   
   victims of abuse, he is    
   used to his targets slinking away hoping the defamation gets buried as he   
   finds new targets. I know several such people who ask that I not mention their   
   names while confronting him. I try to honor that.    
      
   Wahid threatens legal action internationally, an expensive and time consuming   
   scenario so unlikely to people with ordinary budgets it is a safe threat to   
   make. His bullying style has long made use of it.   
      
   Now Wahid has victims who not only refuse to go away but who commiserate with   
   each other, seek out other victims, mock his insane behavior, and seek to   
   confront him. Hence his escalating hysteria.    
      
   Again, Matt, I am also willing to have a civil discussion and I am far more   
   nuanced about Wahid than you might think but there is no moral equivalency   
   here. Wahid has behaved in ways that are predatorial, obsessive, libelous,   
   slanderous, abusive, and    
   bullying. This is not oversensitive reaction to trashtalk online. This man   
   blogs about us, uses our photos, calls us murderers, spies, pedophiles, paid   
   trolls, and recently terrorists. The one thing I have in this world is my good   
   name: Nathan Abookire.    
   A name I received from my father a man I love and admire as one of the most   
   decent and honorable men who ever lived. Wahid decided it was okay to take a   
   colossal shit on that and expected as all bullies do to get away with it. He   
   won't. I am not going    
   away. I am also serious in my offer that HIS ATTORNEY if he has one truly can   
   depose me in Australia OR via Skype to set the record straight under penalty   
   of law.   
      
   As you can read he rejects this. Why? Am I calling his bluff? Is he concerned   
   the chickens have come home to roost and suddenly a vast nexus (his favorite   
   word) of his lies shameful behaviors will be exposed?    
      
   To those of you who have not had your names dragged through mud and think we   
   should just go away: would you tell this to a rape victim? Libel is not rape.   
   But it latches on to you. We live in a world where employers Google people.   
   Where people believe    
   automatically what they see online. Moreover Wahid has tried doxxing me to my   
   local Antifa (presumably to punch me i.e. hurt me for being a Nazi). Wahid   
   didn't realize I know my local Antifa and am a dues paying Democratic   
   Socialists of America member.    
   They came to me confused and suspecting a smear campaign. Wahid made some   
   embarrassing mistakes like stating I organized Proud Boys at a Starbucks in   
   the Citadel in Oldtown because that's what my Facebook profile info said. It   
   totally escaped him that    
   was a Game of Thrones reference. This is a classic example of his inability to   
   discern satire and comedy from reality WHILE trying to get people hurt in real   
   life.   
      
   So I owe Wahid no apologies. Fuck him. But let's do this legally and openly. I   
   am so convinced not only of the righteousness of my cause and of the utter   
   bankruptcy of Wahid's and I think he is too.   
      
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    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)