From: adam.ozturk1990@gmail.com   
      
   Interesting.    
      
   There are esotericists who would disagree that the Mass/Liturgy/Sacramental   
   system in non-Coptic traditions is non-Theurgic. I'd say there's quite a bit   
   of theurgy even if the one engaged has a more flat exoteric understanding of   
   their work. I don't know    
   a single Coptic clergyman who has anything other than the typical high church   
   Christian's understanding of their worship. Yes the Eastern Churches have an   
   intuitive sense of the mystical that does not always line up with other   
   esoteric systems.    
      
   I am not sure I follow then how the Copts are Theurgical but others are not,   
   especially other non-Chalcedonian churches like the Ethiopian Orthodox   
   Tewahedo Church which is essentially identical to the Coptic and in close   
   proximity to them in every way.   
      
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