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   Haqq to Dale Husband   
   Re: Is Simple Plan one of Wahid Azal's f   
   05 Feb 20 20:02:12   
   
   From: sarahsmithbismillah@gmail.com   
      
   On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 4:53:49 PM UTC+13, Dale Husband wrote:   
   > I don't know about the Bab himself being a total failure, since he still has   
   a spiritual legacy that is quite heroic.....but why should anyone as crazy as   
   Wahid Azal be the one to claim him as his Lord? That makes the Bab himself   
   look bad!   
   >    
   > Azal is a Marxist, but Karl Marx was an ATHEIST. That's one obvious fallacy.   
   If you believe in God, why follow anything atheistic?   
   >    
   > I am more of an atheist than Azal and think Marxism/Communism was doomed to   
   fail because it had some absurd ideas. Case in point, that a "dictatorship of   
   the proletariat" would evolve over time into a classless, stateless society.   
   That is simply    
   against human nature. When people take power, they never give it up except   
   when they are forced to. The Who sung about that.   
   >    
      
   The Bab is amazing and one doesn't need to be a Bayani or Baha'i to see this.   
   What the Bab wrote and stood for is no less than remarkable.    
      
   As for Marx, yes you're not saying anything new here and Wahid has already   
   explain how why what and where with Marx's theories. Try listening to what he   
   says instead of listening to your own head when he speaks, Jesus!   
      
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    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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