From: denisgiron1978@gmail.com   
      
   Greetings Matt   
      
   Matt wrote:   
   > No, Denis, you CANNOT consider    
   > my saying that psychedelics    
   > aren't known for causing cardiac    
   > arrest as implying that he might    
   > have given her some.    
      
   Then can you explain why you felt the need to declare that psychedelics are   
   not known (by you) to cause cardiac arrest, in response to a question about   
   the likelihood of Roya consuming the substances Nima imbibed?   
      
   Moreover, is it your position that Nima was _not_ sharing his concoctions with   
   her?   
      
   Matt continued:   
   > I said that I was aware of Wahid's    
   > writings on psychedelics,  and    
   > that I never saw him use any,     
      
   And yet we can be pretty confident that Nima has imbibed such substances,   
   therefore (as should have already been obvious) just because Matt Douglas did   
   not witness something happen does not logically entail that it therefore did   
   not happen. It may seem    
   unnecessary to point such out, but it strikes me as worthy of note in light of   
   the heavy emphasis your posts have put on measuring possibilities against your   
   own limited experience.   
      
   Matt added:   
   > I observed him in person almost    
   > constantly when not sleeping for    
   > a week   
      
   Was the week you spent with him the only time you met him in person?   
      
   Matt continued:   
   > Never met Roya in person.    
      
   Duly noted.   
      
   Matt wrote:   
   > I know very little of how the   
   > German or Australian equivalents   
   > of CPS work.     
      
   Duly noted. And you have perhaps even less familiarity with any interaction   
   specifically Nima may have had with such services, correct?   
      
   Matt wrote:   
   > I'm not surprised at the possibility    
   > of German social services doing    
   > similar to a brown single father.    
      
   Well, only formal contradictions are not possible. That said, I don’t think   
   mere racism is the only possible explanation for certain folks having concerns.   
      
   Matt wrote:   
   > His daughter is a very    
   > strong-willed child.     
      
   Praise the Lord. May God protect her and bring her peace and prosperity.   
      
   Matt notes:   
   > Now, you sure seem to be    
   > insinuating the possibility of    
   > some moral though not legal    
   > culpability for Roya's death on    
   > Wahid himself with your talk    
   > of psychedelics.    
      
   Note that Nima himself absurdly accuses Nate and me of having “murdered”   
   his wife. It seems, fair, therefore, to explore the question of who between us   
   (if anyone) is more likely to bear culpability. I even told Nima, multiple   
   times, that if he    
   persisted with that disgusting and baseless accusation, I might explore that   
   sad subject.    
      
   Matt continued:   
   > Yet, when I point out to you if you    
   > were hypothetically correct in the    
   > baseless appraisal of his   
   > psychological state,  that    
   > needling him in cyberspace might    
   > not be a good idea to do to a    
   > single parent,  you say that such    
   > wouldn't make you at all culpable.    
   > You can't have it both ways,    
   > motherfucker!!!    
      
   Well, let’s explore these two disparate points.   
      
   *POINT 1: If Nima is going to flippantly declare us culpable in Roya’s   
   passing, we can likewise raise questions about his own culpability. We might   
   mention that we never met her, while Nima was in the same apartment with her   
   when she passed. We might    
   note that, according to Nima himself, this is the _second_ woman to meet an   
   untimely death while in a relationship with him. We might note his long   
   history of accusing others of things which are actually true of himself. We   
   might note that, in light of    
   people who know him and his family saying he looks significantly older than   
   his own mother, his premature aging is more likely due to his abuse of his   
   body rather than bad genes (as, on the contrary, those who know his family say   
   he comes from great    
   genetic stock!). From there we might wonder: was he giving the same toxic   
   concoctions which have so damaged him to his fragile wife?   
      
   *POINT 2: You raised a _hypothetical_ scenario in which us making fun of his   
   libel might trigger him to harm his own child. As I wrote before, a person who   
   harms a child cannot be exculpated simply by noting that he wrote some insane   
   libel about others,    
   who then mocked said libel. The culpability would remain with him.   
      
   So, looking at those two disparate points, I don’t see any contradiction. On   
   the contrary, both can be accurate simultaneously.   
      
   ***   
      
   Matt wrote:   
   > I have never once thought of    
   > wasting so much fucking time    
   > as to create fake pages    
   > lampooning people,  creating    
   > websites just to ridicule then,    
   > and certainly never resorted to    
   > jobs at their personal life.    
      
   Heh, and yet your friend Nima has done all that, repeatedly, to multiple   
   people.    
      
   Matt wrote:   
   > So when you claim your    
   > cyberspace actions toward    
   > Wahid as mere tit for tat... no,    
   > asshole,  it ain't,  not even close!!!    
      
   How, precisely, did you reach that conclusion? How familiar are you with our   
   history with Nima? With the various pages and blogs he made about us? With the   
   jabs he took at our personal lives?    
      
   Matt added:    
   > if you consider my grading you    
   > with a D+/C- rather than an F in    
   > the manipulative skills department    
   > as a compliment... well, if that's    
   > what you wanna do to stroke    
   > your ego, it's no skin off my ass.    
      
   “No skin off my ass” — what a charming turn of phrase.   
      
   That said, what’s clear is that you came here with no intention of being the   
   least bit kind with your words, so I would think even the mildest compliment   
   from you is earned rather than freely given.   
      
   On a closing note, permit me to say that I’m still interested in seeing any   
   pictures of you and Nima which you might be willing to share.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)