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   Message 32,649 of 33,166   
   The Honorable Skeptic to All   
   Re: SA 1701 admits common cause with bah   
   12 Apr 20 16:54:56   
   
   From: dalehusband@gmail.com   
      
   {{{No, because the Primal Point EXPLICITLY commanded Subh-i-Azal to keep the   
   faith as its Mirror even if NO ONE BELIEVED IN HIM! Furthermore, the Point   
   only ever addressed Husayn Ali Haba' (hot air) as 238 and as an inferior.}}}   
      
   Proof for either of these claims?   
      
   After all the crap you have thrown at me, I am not going to believe what you   
   claim about the Bab and Subh-i-Azal, just like I don't believe some of the   
   historical narratives that paint Abdu'l-Baha as totally perfect in his   
   behavior and Mirza Muhammad Ali    
   as a monster. Self-serving bullshit made up many years after the fact is what   
   they ALL look like.    
      
      
   {{{The stupidity of your argument is typical of the materialist dumbfuckery of   
   a moronic and shallow Amerikkkan duffus whose only dialectical context is   
   between observable "winners" and "losers," as if history is an American   
   football came or a corporate    
   product where a manipulated consensus reality decides its worth, even though   
   the actual fact of history is that Subh-i-Azal scored the real victory by   
   instrumentalizing the Bayani community in the overthrow of the Qajars and   
   sending those monsters into    
   the garbage heap of history -- and then later produced all the academics and   
   literary figures of the modern Iranian state. He also ensured that that the   
   Bayani community, whatever its circumstances, did not sell out to European   
   imperialist powers like    
   the Baha'is did first to Tsarist Russia and then to the British and later to   
   you scum-sucking Yanks and Zionists.}}}   
      
   What a load of rancid word salad! Are you denying that Baha'u'llah won the   
   allegiance of most of the Babis of his time, making them Baha'is? How do you   
   explain the spread of the Baha'i Faith around the world since then, while the   
   Bayani movement that    
   remains only seems to exist with you and a few of your fellow cultists online?   
   That's sad! Also, the events of 1953 and 1979 in Iran prove that the Bayanis   
   didn't do anything to reform Iran as a society and instead it became first an   
   absolute monarchy    
   friendly to the West and then a fundamentalist Islamic state. Nothing about   
   Bayani involvement in those cases, right? So maybe you made that part up?   
       
   {{{And if Subh-i-Azal lost? Why did He later come back during the tail end of   
   the 20th century and beginning of the 21st and create decisive global   
   headaches for you Baha'is and fellow-travelers?}}}   
      
   He croaked in 1912 after spending decades on Cyprus, so that alone makes your   
   last point utter bullshit. If you are claiming to be the return of   
   Subh-i-Azal, you are yourself the most damning argument why the Bayani   
   movement shouldn't even exist anymore.    
   Fraud is fraud, bigotry is bigotry, stupidity is stupidity and evil is evil.   
   Repackaging them in a new form is pointless.   
      
      
   {{{Methinks the Texan pansy doth protest too much where 'winning' and 'losing'   
   is concerned. Besides what the fuck does an illiterate and know-nothing Texan   
   redneck idiot dolt and incel living in his parents house named Dale Husband   
   know either way. He    
   has no access to texts. He has not a sliver of knowledge of languages. He is   
   just a racist, over-opinionated white "American idiot" in a long line.}}}   
      
   And if that's all you have to throw at me in the end, that's nothing.   
      
   https://literarydevices.net/ad-hominem/   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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