From: wahidazal66@gmail.com   
      
   On Wednesday, 15 April 2020 07:10:16 UTC+10, NUR  wrote:   
   > On Wednesday, 15 April 2020 01:48:24 UTC+10, daleh...@gmail.com  wrote:   
   > > My point, Stevie, was that any effort of the Bayanis to reform Iran's   
   >government came to nothing,   
   > >because of the events of 1953    
   > >and since 1979 which totally destroyed and democracy Iran may have had.   
   >    
   > What a shallow, dumb and chidish reading of history. If you want to walk   
   down that road, one can make the same silly argument and say that you white   
   liberals are losers of American history because by making Killary your   
   candidate you handed your    
   country on a silver platter to Trump who has wreaked permanent damage on it   
   just as you are about to hand it back to Trump by making Biden your candidate.   
   Be that as it may, America was never a democracy to begin with so Trump is a   
   natural outcome of the    
   contradiction that is America. However, as hard as Khomeini tried to make Iran   
   a complete theocratic dictatorship, he couldn't, since even he had to give   
   some level of process and parliamentary democracy to the Islamic Republic --   
   and that is the legacy    
   of the Constitutional Revolution which is a direct legacy of the Bayanis. In   
   other words, whether secular or religious, the shadow of the Bayan hangs long   
   over Iran on all sides of the spectrum.   
   >     
   >    
   > > I'm not the one who joined a cult led by a toxic lunatic.   
   >    
   > Yeah, you did. You joined the baha'i faith and continue to bat for them,   
   Gomer: the baha'i faith founded and led by a toxic lunatic named Mirza Husayn   
   Ali Nuri. Now go run along now and into the loving embrace of Michael Zargarov.   
      
   Correction: a toxic, murderous and meglomaniacal lunatic named Mirza Husayn   
   Ali Nuri.   
      
   Additionally, without Ali Shariati there would have been no Islamic Revolution   
   in Iran since Shariati and his father Mohammad-Taqi were both Bayanis, and   
   were consistently accused as such by the mullahs. The speeches and writings of   
   Ali Shariati    
   galvanized an entire generation and mobilized them for direct confrontation   
   with the Shah's western propped comprador dictatorship.  It is the legacy of   
   Shariati's democratic socialist Shi'i Islam (which is in fact a not too   
   carefully smokescreened Bayan    
   to those who know how to read between the lines) that prevented Khomeini and   
   the Islamic Republic from sliding into a totalatarian theocratic dystopia.   
   Given this, the democratic and socialist elements to the Islamic Republic of   
   Iran today is indeed a    
   legacy of Shariati and so by implication a legacy of the Bab.   
      
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