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   Message 32,755 of 33,166   
   NUR to Bob   
   Re: Freedom (Re-posted)   
   18 May 20 00:47:06   
   
   From: wahidazal66@gmail.com   
      
   On Monday, 18 May 2020 00:50:00 UTC+10, Bob  wrote:   
   > On Saturday, May 16, 2020 at 8:46:13 PM UTC-4, NUR wrote:   
   > >    
   > > What's the context of this, Bob? Are you complaining about the lockdown   
   and quarantine?   
   > - - - - - - - - - - -    
   >    
   > I wrote this a year ago, and re-posted it now.   
   > The context now is the same as it was before.   
   >    
   > The difference now, since you mentioned the lockdown,   
   > is that we are seeing how ready government always is   
   > to expand its power.   
   >    
   > Sadly, too many people are too willing yield their freedom,   
   > and to trust those who abuse that trust.   
   >    
   > In that regard, it is also a commentary to Baha'is regarding their   
   > Administrative Order, which as I show in The Guardian Problem posts,   
   > has no legitimacy, and which insulates itself from accountability with   
   > secrecy.   
   >    
   > Is there anything about freedom, as spoken of in my commentary,   
   > which you find objectionable?   
   > .   
   > .   
      
   Freedom is a good thing but it also a subjective thing. Individually freedom   
   without individual obligations and duties, and especially social contract   
   collectively, becomes a form of tyranny. I don't use the word anarchy because   
   this word is abused and    
   most people do not understand what political anarchy actually means.   
      
   That aside, when white men speak of freedom it is usually about privilege (the   
   privilege of white men re-termed 'freedom'), and not freedom per se, that they   
   usually complain about. Almost all conservatives argue freedom from this   
   fallacy.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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