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   Bob to sma...@gmail.com   
   Re: Re-post: The Guardian Problem:   
   18 Mar 22 19:57:01   
   
   From: RobertArvay@msn.com   
      
   On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 12:03:51 AM UTC-5, sma...@gmail.com wrote:   
   > Hi Bob,    
   >    
   > Are you the Remeyite turned Evangelical turned Orthodox I used to see here   
   years ago?    
   > As for the everything in the W&T not working out as expected, I look at it   
   the same way as I look at Jesus' statement "This generation will not pass away   
   until you see the end of these things." In neither case does it mean   
   Abdu'l-Baha or Jesus Christ    
   weren't divinely inspired.    
   >    
   > warmest, Susan   
   = = = = =   
      
   Hi, Susan,   
      
   I seem to remember a Susan Maneck here, years ago, but I was never those   
   things.   
      
   I am open-minded about Abdul being a sincerely religious person.   
   Ruth White was persuaded that he was.   
      
   Shoghi was an entirely different story, as I explicate in the OP.   
      
   Jesus was not a divinely inspired man, He is God, incomparable to anyone else.   
      
   Things "not working out as expected," is a euphemistic way of characterizing   
   Shoghi's   
   repeated, emphatic declarations, not only about the central core necessity of   
   Guardianship,   
   but also of his own vital responsibility to ensure a  clear, indisputable line   
   of succession,    
   or failing that, some provision to account for a lack of succession.    
      
   It does your case no good to say, well Jesus failed in the same manner,   
   because it    
   does not explain Shoghi's discrepancy.  Blame-shifting is not a valid argument.   
      
   Blessings to you!   
   Robert Arvay   
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