XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism   
   From: niunian@ymail.com   
      
   On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 10:16:04 -0700, {:-]))) wrote:   
      
   > niunian, responding to Ned, wrote:   
   >   
   >>I think the reason the Third Patriarch called it "motto of faith" other   
   >>than anything else, is because in the end, the poem concluded that   
   >>"faith should be steadfast and consistent(non-dual? what the fuck is   
   >>that?),   
   >   
   > Non-dual is, technically, not-two.   
   > Without making distinct ions. Uncarved. Simple.   
   >   
   > Wholeness.   
   > Unity consciousness.   
   > Comsic consciousness. Undifferentiated unity.   
   > One with Dao. Wu-wei.   
      
   Yes. That's why I think using non-dual to describe faith is   
   inappropriate. There is no such thing as unity as far as faith is   
   concerned. The original Chinese text meant to say that faith is undivided   
   loyalty. There is nothing about unity or wholeness when talking about   
   faith.   
      
      
   >   
   >>consistency is faith". It shows the absolutely important position that   
   >>faith has in his writing. Calling faith other than what it is, in my   
   >>opinion, is a mistake made by people who have never known faith. Among   
   >>the Chinese translators, I think that is quite common. It's no surprise   
   >>that a Chinese Buddhist translator may have never known Christ!   
   >>   
   >>  :-)   
   >   
   > Chirst consciousness.   
   > Same deal. Different deck of cards on a ship, out to sea.   
      
   To me, there is no difference.   
      
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