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   From: niunian@ymail.com   
      
   On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 06:00:37 -0700, {:-]))) wrote:   
      
   > niunian wrote:   
   >> {:-]))) wrote:   
   >>> niunian wrote:   
   >>>> Tang Huyen wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Your translation is not "word for word", as the hou (simplified ?,   
   >>>>> traditional ?) means late, behind, posterior, as opposed to qian ?,   
   >>>>> which means ahead, prior, in advance. See   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Here in this context, it's about the thought in the mind. The thought   
   >>>>in the mind either comes from the front of the mind which is the   
   >>>>world, or comes from the back of the mind which is within oneself.   
   >>>   
   >>> Sometimes there are what are called figures of speech. Idioms.   
   >>> Sayings.   
   >>>   
   >>> These need not be taken literally.   
   >>> They might actually be metaphors.   
   >>   
   >>I doubt that. The Sixth Patriarch speaks with assurance and certainty.   
   >>And the issue is an important one for Buddhist practice. I don't think   
   >>it has anything to do with metaphor.   
   >   
   > Where is the mind?   
   >   
   > Is the mind the same as the brain?   
   > Is the mind in the head?   
   > Within the body?   
   >   
   > Some thoughts appear to me, on this screen,   
   > to have simply flowed out of my fingers.   
   > As if my fingers had a mind or minds of there own that I don't own.   
   >   
   > If the front of the mind is, literally, the world, does that mean the   
   > mind is separate from the body?   
   >   
   > Is one's body the world?   
   >   
   > Literally?   
   >   
   > In Chinese languages, I have heard and read that what is translated as   
   > mind is also heart.   
   >   
   > Is there a front and back of the heart/mind?   
   >   
   > Does the word, hsin/xin, literally mean, heart?   
   >   
   > If someone said, "Show me your heart"   
   > does that mean one would literally open up one's chest to show one's   
   > heart, as being restless?   
   >   
   > At times a figure of speech, even a metaphor,   
   > is able to transmit a meaning of a spirit,   
   > far beyond that of literal meanings of words as they skate.   
   >   
   > In the center of my heart/mind is peace.   
   > My heart, itself, continues to function.   
   > My mind continues to reflect.   
   > It's a mirror.   
   >   
   > The front of the mirror-mind.   
   > The back of the mirror-mind.   
   > One side is more clear then the utter.   
      
   Very good questions. In my opinion, the mind is made up by our six   
   senses. So whatever we see, hear, or touch, it all becomes part of our   
   mind. The brain, in my opinion, is actually just the pathway for the mind   
   to communicate with our sense organs. That's why the neurons look exactly   
   like communication cables. It does not think. Thinking is an ability of   
   the mind which is not physical. As for the heart, it is the source of our   
   spiritual mind. The mind is essentially empty and void. All the abilities   
   of the mind come from its source the heart. Things like memory,   
   knowledge, wisdom, intelligence, courage, faith, happiness, etc., they   
   all come from the heart.   
      
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